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Should I vote Labour

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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 13:05:46

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Statement of intent not the manifesto

1. Reverse the cut in corporation tax saving £64bn over the parliamentary cycle
2£10 minimum wage for all over 18s
3. 17% rise in unpaid farmers allowance (exrea £500 pa) - paid by reversing the Inheritance Tax cut.
4. Renationalise railways as the franchises lapse
5. Stop NHS private contracts. Phase out existing private contracts thus saving 3.5bn - 5bn at present going as profit to the private health companies
6. Build 200k homes a year. Half from the private sector and half council homes by giving LAs the power to borrow against assets. This should ensure that 12bn housing benefit bill at present going into private landlords pockets should gradually fall.
7. 4 new public holidays
8. End zero- hours jobs by guaranteeing a contract for all workers on regular hours.
9 Ban any company from tendering for government contracts if they are based in an off shore tax haven and pay their CEO more tha £350k pa
10 stop the opening of new free schools and grammars
11 Stop sweetheart deLs between HMRC and bug corps. All large companies should publish their tax returns
12 Eradicate gender pay gap
13 cut business rates by £1.5bn
14 End the practice by large corps, of taking longer than the accepted 28 days to pay SMEs

Eloethan Sun 30-Apr-17 23:16:18

Anniebach How very rude of you. I was trying to be helpful. If you are so concerned about keeping your financial situation private, then don't disclose how little you are living on.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 22:48:23

Pedantry alert.
Doesn't to date mean the same as in the past?

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 22:46:49

Q. Should I vote Labour?
A. You should/ should not vote Labour because.....
is not TELLING anyone how to vote, it's ANSWERING the QUESTION.

I guess you have never been a teacher, POGS.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 22:43:52

3000 in Walthamstow, roses?
You can't get that in Middlesborough.

POGS Sun 30-Apr-17 21:10:22

GG MK 2

" Although, like the number of Tory party supporters on here perhaps they are finding it is difficult to say anything good when there is nothing good to say - or at least they haven't yet told us what that is."

Perhaps they are not interested , not 'activists' and couldn't care if anybody doesn't follow their choice of whom to vote for. Have no interest in ' TELLING' anybody how to vote. You certainly won't find any post to date nor in the past where I have ever 'TOLD' anybody how to vote.

It's called democracy, you have one vote, you have a choice, you decide by gleaning as much information as you can.

Hopefully it won't be by reading the likes of squawkbox, the canary, anotherangryvoice, JackofKent Or what I call possibly a fat bloke eating pizza in a chair.

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 20:07:39

Not the best areas of London
Neither were some of the other areas of London years ago but which are now 'desirable'.

Not that I would desire to live there any more but it does seem to appeal to young people.

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 19:59:46

Two young teachers get quite a good salary between them!
The couple we know have bought a two bedroom flat ( it's lovely) for far less than 400,000 have a look on Rightmove for Tower Hamlets
For 3,000 you can get a nice flat also in Walthamstow and around there.Not the best areas of London I know, but still, London.

Jalima1108 Sun 30-Apr-17 19:57:34

I didn't say they were buying a house
and I didn't say it was in Tower Hamlets either
I only know what I was told

A nurse and a teacher would have an income of around £60- £70,000 between them in London, more as they go up the scale.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 19:54:11

The government thinks that an affordable house for first time buyers in London is over £400,000.
Some shared ownership schemes in London have to have a household income of £60-80,000.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-17 19:53:35

Eleothan, I said my income was less than £400 pw , you took it upon yourself to search and then advise me I needed pension credit what a waste of your time and I suggest you wait untill someone asks for financial advice and explain why before you do so again

Eloethan Sun 30-Apr-17 19:23:14

As to the issue re housing in London, this was in the Telegraph in December 2015 (house prices have increased considerably since then):

".... Tower Hamlets is now the 12th most affordable place in London, with the average house going for £496,619...."

We live in a 3-bedroomed terraced house with no garage on a pleasant but average street in east London. It is currently worth around 425,00-450,000. Even at the salaries we were earning at the end of our careers - which I believe were pretty good compared to many of the people in this low income area - we would have been hard pushed to save for the deposit and make the repayments on our house at its current price (and many young families have also to pay for childcare). I really don't understand how a young couple can do it - unless one or both of them is earning an exceptionally high salary or has had some sort of windfall.

Eloethan Sun 30-Apr-17 18:57:54

that is £149 per week.

Eloethan Sun 30-Apr-17 18:57:23

anniebach You said "I don't use food banks and my income is way below £400 pw".

The Age Concern website that I copied from said that pensioners should get a minimum of £149 and if their income is less than this they can claim pension credit (which gives access to many other concessions such as Council Tax). If they have capital, pension credit will be adjusted accordingly.

What is it you don't understand? I was trying to be helpful because I was saying it appears that you are £200, or thereabouts, worse off than you should be and perhaps you should check this with Age Concern.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-17 17:52:22

I didn't say what my income is, I did say it wasn't £400 pw so sorry Eleothan your figures don't make sense

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 17:51:50

Just about 19,000,000 between 18 and 40 year olds in the population.
A substantial number, I would think.

Just over half that in over 65s.

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 17:49:49

Did Annie actually say what income she was receiving?How do you work out that £149 is around £200 more than she's receiving? Per week? confused

Eloethan Sun 30-Apr-17 17:42:24

Yes it is, Anniebach and that is why I think, contrary to what is being implied, pensioners do not necessarily get a good deal. You said you get less than £400 income and I was merely suggesting that you check that you are receiving all your are entitled to because if people are supposed to get a minimum of £149 that is around £200 more than you are receiving so maybe you are losing out.

(I've just come in so that's in reply to post at 12.26)

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 17:23:00

Not that many of them though, are there?

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 17:00:29

It's not me, Scottie, who says that the young will vote Labour.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/27/labour-ahead-polls-among-voters-40/

The Telegraph, right wing paper?

Beammeupscottie Sun 30-Apr-17 16:49:53

I know. It's the new word in the Times!

A bit of light relief in the Times re; Boris as the Sybil.

In 2005 he promised that voting Tory meant you would get a wife with bigger breasts and be able to afford a BMW.
A prediction that came true. Bra sizes and sales of BMWs have increased.

Come on Jen, have a laugh.

thatbags Sun 30-Apr-17 16:49:12

Interesting comment, beam, and doubly so if Labour members like Foster are saying it. Dominic Lawson is also saying that Corbyn is in thrall to Stalinists who don't care about the Labour Party, only about their small bit of it.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 16:47:21

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/30/young-must-vote-general-election-8-june

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 16:43:45

That's different, Scottie, calling Corbyn's supporters Stalinites.
Makes a change from Trotskyists.

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 16:40:50

Bet he'd go hairless if the LP actuall won this GE!

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-17 16:40:30

No difference Jen, I don't seperate the two, why you said what you did was simply because you didn't agree with a post , that is not debating, it is bullying

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