Should I vote Conservative

news.huffingtonpost.com/t/t-l-krtylll-bdrhudthl-k/

Quote:" I keep wondering why they want to kill me."

This is something I am really scared of if May gets a landslide and we follow on with the Tory privatisation of the NHS.

news.huffingtonpost.com/t/t-l-krtylll-bdrhudthl-h/

This is American style healthcare.

Millions more uninsured
Medicaid cuts
Less help paying for health insurance
No more mandates
Weaker protections for pre-existing conditions
Skimpier insurance policies
Higher deductibles
Higher premiums for older people
Lower premiums for younger people
Money for states to strengthen their insurance markets
Tax cuts worth $592 billion

Reasons not to vote Conservative.

Coalition government was a conservative government held up by libdem.
It certainly wasn't an equal partnership, was it?
As the first thing they did was raise the university fees, that was obvious. That was done to discredit the junior partnership in the coalition. It certainly worked, judging by the 2015 results.

Yours is the sort of comment that should be on a thread like this, Cunco; something that can be discussed, not just a snipe.

This is the first time that I've logged on since the General Election was called and, for a one and only time, I may take Durhamjen's advice and leave this thread to her.

Just before I go, Whitewave, your figures need to be put into context, notably the impact of what happened before and after 2008, the Credit Crunch. Before 2008/9, the UK economy (under Labour if I remember rightly) was buoyed on a global sea of liquidity. After 2008/9, most governments had to pick up the pieces and, to an extent, replace shrinking private sector debt with government debt. Austerity, defined as UK government borrowing reduction, was a myth, often an attack on government for something that wasn't happening. As a % of GDP, UK government borrowing has now declined but only to the levels of 2008.

If I remember rightly, too, the UK had a coalition government in 2010/15, so not really a Conservative government.

Personally, I think all Governments since 2008 have muddled through as best they could in potentially disastrous circumstances. Gordon Brown has to take a large share of responsibility for the run-up to the cliff edge in 2008 but he has my gratitude for his part in keeping the UK out of the Eurozone and his handling to the Credit Crunch crisis after 2008.

Sorry, Ana, not spoonfeeding you. You can find out for yourself by reading the links.

I don't read your links, as you know. So if you're going to quote from one of them it would be helpful for people like me to give your source durj.

Do tell HQ about it then, Jalima.
No, I am sure they can read!

Looks like HQ have already told posters not to 'discourage other posters from commenting'. There is a green message about it on t'other thread.

It's from the previous link, Ana. Not that you'll read it, so I don't know why you asked.

If I give a link you complain. If I give a quotation you complain.

See what I mean, Jalima. Following me round complaining all the time, but not adding to the thread at all.

Do tell HQ about it then, Jalima.
I think it would be better if other people actually said something of substance instead of just saying that railing against the tories won't do anything.
Are we not allowed to do that?
If I am being told off all the time like a recalcitrant child, then I claim the right to behave as such.

I think a poster is entitled to say that railing against the Conservatives will not do a darn thing; it doesn't seem to be against the rules, it seems to be an opinion that you can agree or disagree with.

However, I think telling several people to get off the thread is not acceptable and could be against the rules.

'Just abandon us too our misery...' sigh

And where's your last quote from? It's forum etiquette to give your source.

Jalima, I wouldn't have to tell people to go and play elsewhere if they did not insist on telling us what to do.

"Railing against Conservatives, however pleasurable posters find that exercise, will not do a darn thing."

I don't think saying that is very enlightening, do you? It's more or less just telling us to shut up.

"In October 2016, the last month before the overall benefit cap cut London had 43% of all capped families and now it has just 23% revealing that the policy now affects every village, hamlet, town and city across Great Britain (No figures for Northern Ireland where the OBC is fully mitigated.) London has seen an 85% increase in families affected whereas the rest of GB sees an increase of between 313% in Yorkshire & Humber to 430% increase in capped families in the East Midlands."

yet another childish response from you durhamjen and yet another one telling posters to go elsewhere.

djen
Why do you keep asking people to leave the threads?

I'm losing count of the number of people who have been told to go.

You may be miserable but enlightenment could come from the depths of despair.

Tories lying again about benefit figures.

speye.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/the-errant-and-misleading-tory-benefit-cap-figures/

Not working, whitewave.

Just abandon us too our misery, then, roses, and go and play somewhere else.

In spite of long lists /links/stats etc Labour is going to nose dive in the GE, people do not want a Socialist government ( plus Corbyn and his many friends in the unions. )Railing against Conservatives, however pleasurable posters find that exercise, will not do a darn thing.

Myth Busting

"Tories manage debt better than Labour"

Labour Government Debt

2006 - 0.4 trillion.
2007 - 0.4.9trillion
2008- 0.5trillion

Sub prim crises

2010 1.0 trillion. 55%GDP

Tory Government

2012 1.3 trillion
2014 1.4 trillion
2015 1.51 trillion
2016 1.6trillion
2017 1.7 trillion. 85% GDP

And this even with all the cuts we have endured in the name of the national debt. Not working is it!!!??

So predictable, durge...

It's lists that are so tedious. Keep the links going, so we have a choice. Had a bad day DJ?

Get off the bloody thread then if you think politics is tedious.
You don't have to waste your time or ours.

I was just about to say the same, Ana. So tedious.

Perhaps you could just give us a link from where you're getting all this stuff so we can just ignore it?