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Should I vote Conservative

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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 13:07:35

Anyone got any information we can put onto this thread please?

hildajenniJ Sun 30-Apr-17 22:10:39

I've been a life long Conservative voter. I am beginning to lose my trust in them and their policies. As for Teresa May, I have lost any respect I had for her. I'm glad she has called an election, although I have no idea who I'm going to vote for now.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 22:08:05

Unless it's fake news of course. Thought I'd get that in before anyone else did.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 22:07:18

This looks interesting.

skwawkbox.org/2017/04/30/theresa-may-under-investigation-re-brexit-profits/

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-17 21:35:09

We can have a national anthem , we did at one time have national service , NHS does mean National H S , but not speak of the national interest , most odd

thatbags Sun 30-Apr-17 21:28:02

Thank you for saying that, niggly. I was going to but was too busy rolling my eyes at the utter ridiculousness of the post in question!

nigglynellie Sun 30-Apr-17 20:30:34

Are you serious? ' In the national interest' has overtones of Hitler!!. Mrs May is not the only politician to say that! McDonnell has said it, Nicola Sturgeon has the word 'national' in the name of her political party, and I don't really think that many people equate that word with Hitler and fascism!!!

Granny23 Sun 30-Apr-17 20:18:28

Well it looks like the 'strong opposition' have ratcheted up their (so far non-existant) campaign in our village as someone has just 'egged' our front windows and car, presumably because we have our posters up now for the local election.

Ginny42 Sun 30-Apr-17 20:17:33

I thought she was confused as to where she was when in Clay Cross, in Derbyshire.

mcem Sun 30-Apr-17 20:15:14

Thank you dj.Clearly you were paying more attention than Mrs M.
Crumbs if she didn't know when she was in Leeds, I wonder where she thought she was in the wilds of Aberdeenshire!
'
Well said pen.
I genuinely believe that a whole lot of folk vote Tory just to show they don't give a stuff about such issues (or are indeed ostriches who won't see).
NHS goes belly up - we have BUPA!
Education suffers- well can still pay the school fees!
I'm all right,Jack!??

trisher Sun 30-Apr-17 20:13:41

It's "In the National Interest" that gets me. She used it again on Andrew Marr this morning. Does no-one realise the link with Hitler and fascism?

MaizieD Sun 30-Apr-17 20:11:15

Hear, hear, Penstemmon! grin

MaizieD Sun 30-Apr-17 20:09:38

It's a weak strategy, modelled on a marketing ploy that if you repeat the key language often enough people will buy the product.

I don't think it's a weak strategy at all, Ginny. It worked a treat for the Leave campaigners "Take back control" and for Trump "Make America Great again".

I think that it and the "Coalition of chaos" are genius and I wish the opposition parties would trump it with something even better. I fear that they won't, though.

Ana Sun 30-Apr-17 20:08:33

I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE OFFICIAL MANIFESTOS.

Penstemmon Sun 30-Apr-17 20:05:39

It looks to me as if there are a lot of ostriches on here who are denying the negative impact current government policies have had/are having on very many people.
TBH at the moment I am OK financially but that does not stop me caring about those who are struggling and i always know that it could be me in a fix as easy as the next person.
On the public service front alone (NHS/Education/Social Care etc) I could never vote for a party whose policies show that the party does not give a shit about them. I do not care who is a good orator, smiles a lot, seems a good sort etc: WHAT DO THE POLICIES THEY PROMOTE MEAN IN PRACTICE?

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 20:01:41

I suppose it mattered to the people of Leeds. Must have lost a few votes for her party in Labour heartlands, particularly as she had gone there to reassure them hers was the party of the workers in Leeds.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 19:58:15

That was Leeds.

mcem Sun 30-Apr-17 19:56:06

Possibly she'd benefit from just installing a neutral background and having a few changes of outfit. Then she wouldn't need to know precisely where she was.
When she said
"And coming here to um, er this particular town....."
where was she? Can anyone tell me? Does it make a blind bit of difference?

Ginny42 Sun 30-Apr-17 19:50:18

It seems Teresa May is being shepherded away from engaging with the public and the press (in much the same way Corbyn is) because she can't debate a point. She reads her speeches and sticks to clichés and sound-bites that are without substance, and Labour needs to unpick them and use them to their advantage.

Her key technique is to repeat the same overused statements, 'hard working', 'strong', 'coalition of chaos' and so on. It's a weak strategy, modelled on a marketing ploy that if you repeat the key language often enough people will buy the product.

So the leader of this 'strong and stable government' has so far: called a GE after less tham a year in office; appointed a Secretary of State for the Foreign Office who seems very ' weak and unstable' and whose sister has now accused him of selling 'faulty goods' in the Brexit campaign. TM won't debate with the leader of the opposition, mingle with the electorate or take questions from the press.

We should run a sweep on how many times the 'strong and stable' sound-bite is mentioned in a single day. Apparently one Tory MP has managed three in one sentence!

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-17 19:47:41

Why then did Vince Cable say on national tv the Libs would not work with Corbyn, he didn't say not with labour but not with Corbyn,

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 19:43:27

Maybe she just didn't want the press to know she was just repeating the same speech again.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 19:42:03

"When journalists were eventually able to report on May’s speech it emerged she had told her supporters that she was the only leader capable of providing “strong and stable leadership” for Britain as the country headed towards Brexit.

“At this election, people will have a clear choice between five years of strong and stable leadership with me and my team or a coalition of chaos led by Jeremy Corbyn,” she said. “That’s what’s on offer of course, if you look at the other parties, they’re lining up to prop up Jeremy Corbyn. We see it from the Liberal Democrats and we see it from Nicola Sturgeon’s Scottish Nationalists.”

Aberdeenshire was one of the most strongly pro-union regions of Scotland in the independence referendum with a yes vote of more than 60%.

Reminding her supporters of the potential of another independence vote in the near future, she said: “There is only one party that is committed to the union. There is only one candidate for prime minister who will stand up to defend the United Kingdom.” "

Sounds very much like electioneering.

durhamjen Sun 30-Apr-17 19:38:54

Somehow, I don't think I'll need to, roses.
Why did you want control back?
Sovereignty means abiding by our own rules, not abandoning them altogether.
That's anarchy, which I didn't think you wanted.

thatbags Sun 30-Apr-17 19:38:47

How is electioneering defined?

thatbags Sun 30-Apr-17 19:37:58

Could it be that she wasn't electioneering?

rosesarered Sun 30-Apr-17 19:35:37

Well, dj you had better get reporting!
Yawn.

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