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Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

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James2451 Sun 07-May-17 13:38:59

‘We need to seriously remind ourselves that we are being asked to cast a vote that will affect not just our lives today, but the future of generations to come’.
I desire a fairer and decent society, one that does not impose severe austerity packages on low and middle earners and so many young families. In fact, for most of us the quality of life for our own grandchildren and their prospects and safe future."

I am deeply worried about giving Teresa May and many of her RW extremists a blank cheque to do what ever they want over the next five years. I am not assured at present that we can trust her and the extreme dogma of many of her MP's. We have no guarantee she will be in office for the full term, look what happened to Maggie.

Her unwillingness to inform the Country what Brexit will mean if she gets her on way with the EU and she is not even prepared to debate her election policies on TV for us all to hear and give our approval,or dissent is worrying. Forget about Corbyn that is a red herring excuse given to protect her from facing the camera's and the Nations scrutiny.
Her term in office at the Home Office has not been the brightest for any leading conservative minister, nor as her ability been questioned to the full to be able to lead our nation through the trouble waters likely to be ahead after Brexit, her ability is still an important unknown factor.

No, I cannot fully put my trust in her at present, I need to have far greater assurances far better than the rude way she behaved at the dispatch box and at the rostrum outside number 10 last week.

We need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation. She is possibly more worried about Nicola Sturgeon than Jeremy Corbyn.. A landslide victory is likely to send the wrong messages to her backbenchers for more draconian policies and I do not believe that is what the nation needs for our grandchildrens future. I am therefore coming round to voting Lib Dem.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 23:43:10

You said 'I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is talking about fox hunting again'
Well, I gave you my answer.

Well,
actually,

I didn't.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 23:33:16

grin I think so.....but

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 23:28:43

I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is also talking of allowing fox hunting again.
That's a bit disingenuous because she can't allow fox hunting again, it is banned by Act of Parliament (2004) as we all know. She may be in favour of it and she may want to allow another vote. But of course she can't allow it.

Another vote would retain the ban I would think.

I would think
if I am allowed to say that

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 23:25:37

What you really wanted to hear was ' Hell! The whole country will be up in arms'
But it wouldn't be true at all.A lot of people want to restore fox hunting and were extremely upset that it was banned ( with hounds).

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 23:21:53

Maizie you are getting very worked up .....can't be good for the health.
You said 'I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is talking about fox hunting again'
Well, I gave you my answer.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 23:19:27

Neither Maizie just giving my own opinion as to liking /disliking political ideas.
Of course political parties will holler about the ideas that their rivals come out with,
Then sometimes do similar things later on.Rather than naive, I am more cynical if anything.However, a good idea is always a good idea.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 23:12:31

Re fox hunting......a lot of people will be happy if it was restored and a lot of people would be unhappy.The usual story.

Nothing like stating the bl**ding obvious. Such a valuable contribution to the debate...

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 23:10:28

Who cares about ideas ( if they are good ones) where they come from, are they pinched/copied and whatnot

It's the reaction to them which people care about. If an idea is 'good' why would it get howls of outrage from the right wing press two years ago but smiles of approval now?

You are either being incredibly naive, roses or failing completely to see the point.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 22:39:30

Re fox hunting......a lot of people will be happy if it was restored and a lot of people would be unhappy.The usual story.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 22:37:28

Who cares about ideas ( if they are good ones) where they come from, are they pinched/copied and whatnot.
The energy one is a good idea, the no hospital charges are a good idea ( in principle) and so on and so forth.All Parties come up with at least a few good ideas!

Welshwife Tue 09-May-17 22:33:22

I have just read a report in 'the Business insider which says that TM will not be allowed to negotiate with the 27 remaining EU countries - she will be excluded from their meetings - but only able to negotiate with Barnier.
In the rules published prior to the vote it was said that the other countries would decide the terms of UK leaving the EU and the U.K would have no input to this process. I imagine that TM was hoping that this was not true or the rules could be changed.
Tomorrow the CPS are going to announce whether or not they are going to prosecute anyone for the Election expenses problem.
I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is also talking of allowing fox hunting again.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 21:37:23

grin @whitewave

whitewave Tue 09-May-17 21:29:09

Like two peas in a pod

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 21:27:06

Nuances like one is proposed by Red Ed and the other by True Blue Theresa, whitewave?

whitewave Tue 09-May-17 21:19:36

sunseeker [Grin] well that is OK then - such nuances clearly make all the differences.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 21:17:47

you are wrong, sunseeker and roses.

Just like May, Millibands' stated intention was to freeze energy prices so that they could go down, but not up.

Labour will freeze energy bills until 2017, ensuring that bills can fall but not rise, and we will give the regulator the power to cut bills this winter.

Page 25 of the 2015 Labour Manifesto

www.labour.org.uk/page/-/BritainCanBeBetter-TheLabourPartyManifesto2015.pdf

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 21:12:17

You are right sunseeker it isn't the same exactly as the Miliband idea.

sunseeker Tue 09-May-17 21:10:29

As I understand it Ed Milliband was going to FREEZE energy bills. Theresa May is talking about putting a CAP on energy bills.

I heard it explained today that the former meant if energy costs dropped then energy bills would not be able to be reduced. The latter means that there will be a limit on how much energy bills can rise, but could still be reduced

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 21:08:53

To be fair, most of the time it was the Labour government trying and failing to deport Abu Hamza, then the ECHR blocked it and Theresa May finally managed to extradite him to the USA.
If I remember correctly, I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

MaizieD Tue 09-May-17 21:04:36

She can't personally be responsible.

When you are a government Minister you are personally responsible for the actions of your department. And you are responsible for Departmental Policy; that's your job.

Honourable Ministers have resigned before now over departmental mistakes, and failures to produced promised results.

whitewave Tue 09-May-17 20:59:12

jalima I am looking at May's term of office and her effectiveness - not what I would have preferred to have happened.

Ana Tue 09-May-17 20:58:54

She did eventually manage to get rid of what's his name. Although all his relatives are still here, living on benefits.

durhamjen Tue 09-May-17 20:56:55

Jalima, I didn't make the same mistake. The second time I corrected the fact that I has mispelt Theresa. I don't normally do that. Back page of the wraparound - backing ME, voting for MY conservative candidate. That's the page the locals are going to have to pay for.

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 20:56:11

I see James has disappeared!

Light blue touch paper and retire

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 20:55:13

confused I thought all Remainers (well, nearly all) were pro immigration and everyone's Human Rights?