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mcem Sun 07-May-17 20:34:57

Headline saying Macron wins.
Off to check details.

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 11:57:48

Thanks for that Ww.

I reckon if the Labour Party had come up with a manifesto like that, it would win by a landslide. hmm

POGS Mon 08-May-17 12:10:36

Mamie

I suppose I am intimating by saying same old , same old will Macron surround himself by a majority from the Socialist Party he knows very well.

If he does it will look like the Socialist Party wearing a different cloak and would that go down well with his supporters who have lost faith with the Socialist Party.

It will be interesting to watch .

Sheilasue Mon 08-May-17 12:10:37

Thank goodness she didn't get in.

Mamie Mon 08-May-17 12:20:19

Ah I see POGS. If the elections in June follow the same pattern there may not be many PS members left to choose from! I am watching the lunchtime news at the moment and they are talking a lot about Bayrou's Democratic party.
Yes Sheilasue. Today is a bank holiday for VE day and there are ceremonies all over France. It would be terrible if it had come after the election of a president from the Front National.

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 12:24:58

Yes, it would have been horrible.

I sometimes wonder if the nationalists who harp back to WW2, realise what the Allies were fighting.

Mamie Mon 08-May-17 12:40:39

Just got to the reaction of the foreign press on the television news.
From Britain it was the front pages of The Guardian and The Telegraph and Theresa May's congratulatory tweet.

michel55 Mon 08-May-17 13:10:39

Hi It is an illusion to believe Macron is the man of the people and ( I am French ) he is a poppet of Rothschild and the big investments banks...... copying the US approach of Trump, Warren Buffet said he will save 16 billions in taxes next year because of Trump policy ...........
LePen if you take away the more extreme views was right ,,,France need to be safed from the EU ultra liberal views on free mouvement ... If Turkey get what they wish for... free movement in europe ..god help Europe . It is in my opinion time for France to Leave The EU like Britain and look after the French peoples and our way of life... anyone can go to live in France BUT they need to accept our way of life .....

allule Mon 08-May-17 13:54:01

I think the reason we heard more than usual about the French election was the timing of our local elections on Thursday.
Being banned from discussing British politics, the broadcasters filled in the time with far more information about the imminent French election than we would usually have.

varian Mon 08-May-17 13:56:38

This is what President Macron thinks of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage.- "Boris Johnson enjoys giving flamboyant speeches but has no strategic vision; the turmoil he created the day after Brexit proves it."

He doesn't hesitate to call Brexit "a crime". -“Nigel Farage and Mr Johnson are responsible for this crime: they sailed the ship into battle and jumped overboard at the moment of crisis.”

Macron has been most harsh against leading Brexiteers who during the campaign last summer he said during his Channel 4 interview with Michael Crick, “spoke bullshit”.

“Theresa May has handled it but what has been happening since then? On the geopolitical level as well as on the financial, realignment and submission to the US. What is going to happen is not ‘taking back control’: it’s servitude.”

www.commonspace.scot/articles/10923/macron-brexit-6-quotes-new-french-president-uk-eu

rosesarered Mon 08-May-17 14:13:21

To be honest, why should we care what Macron says about any British politician,he will have more than enough on his plate dealing with French problems in the near future.
Who knows what Johnson and Farage think of Macron.grin
I am glad that he got in, because if Le Pen had won she would have promised a referendum on the EU, and if the French people had voted for out , what state would the EU be in then, just as we are trying to negotiate deals.
I think it's odd to speak about Macron's wife, all this tittle tattle about age...what the heck does it matter to anybody else.

Smileless2012 Mon 08-May-17 14:16:52

Oh dear, perhaps Macron should get his facts right. It was Cameron who wanted the referendum "who sailed the ship into battle and jumped overboard at the moment of crisis", the moment of crisis being when he knew he'd lost.

Pittcity Mon 08-May-17 15:00:31

I mentioned it Welshwife because his personal life is being used as ammunition against him as his wife is 24 years older! No such criticism of Trump having a wife 23 years younger.....

Personal lives should have no bearing on how good somebody is at a job, but they are media ammunition both good and bad when it comes to politicians.

MaizieD Mon 08-May-17 15:19:04

I think, Smileless that Macron was referring to Johnson's self serving embrace of the 'leave' campaign and his palpable horror when it actually 'won'.

Welshwife Mon 08-May-17 15:28:11

Was that in UK papers then as I have not seen anything like that?

quizqueen Mon 08-May-17 15:55:39

I am disappointed Marine Le Pen didn't get elected because she would have helped to destroy the EU which, in my opinion, which would be the best thing that could happen for the countries of Europe. Mrs May will have an even harder job on her hands now to get a good deal from the EU with the election of Macron.

Perhaps other posters could take some time to look at this website 'www.theeuroprobe.org' ( sorry I can't get a link to work) and type in the code 2017-017 to see how Germany and France conspired against Britain for some background information to the origins of the EU and its true intentions.

mcem Mon 08-May-17 16:20:28

Well quizqueen no surprise there. This might be a good time to start a small private club (or even a thread you could declare exclusive) and enjoy conversations with like-minded bigots posters.

Lillie Mon 08-May-17 16:22:56

But of course France and Germany have no choice but to work closely together, even more so now that the UK is out of the picture. I wonder which language they are going to use seeing as Juncker thinks English is no longer required in the EU. German would win hands down, so Mr Macron better start getting to grips with l'allemand.

hazel311259 Mon 08-May-17 16:57:15

Macron seems fresh and vibrant powerful speaker too happy le penn didn't win!

MargaretX Mon 08-May-17 17:03:10

Macron can speak German he learned it especially to work with EU partners. On our side of Europe politicians learn languages. Fr Merkel, educated in the GDR and speaking fluent Russian learned English in these intervening years and can speak to Obama or Putin.
Her partner - a professor in quantum physics is hardly ever at her side. When she first appeared as Kanzlerin in Berlin he was not there. They are seen at Wagner Opera festival and at classical concerts in Berlin. They sit happily together and she says she talks to him about physics - it is so refreshing after politics!

I think Mme Macron woud be wise to keep a low profile, she has 7 GCs so she could come on GN - if she speaks English.

Peaseblossom Mon 08-May-17 17:17:22

Michel55 I totally agree with you. You're the only one talking any sense on here.

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 17:53:29

In your opinion Peaseblossom.

Goodness me! What a sore loser! LePen is horrendous.

Vive l'Europe! grin

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 17:54:40

No thanks quizqueen. I can't be bothered with conspiracy sites.

daphnedill Mon 08-May-17 18:01:17

Anyway, Mick Greenhough, the owner of that blog is a UKIP fruitloop.

railman Mon 08-May-17 18:57:51

Happy that Macron won, as indeed most people on here seem to be.

There is clearly a lot of work to be done, but working together to improve and strengthen the EU as a whole is better than running away from the problems as the UK seems to have done.

The EU needs reform, it is not just about 'free movement', and as the massively right wing biased press in Britain would have us believe, they are not all 'unelected bureaucrats' - someone elected Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall for instance - what positive improvement have they contributed to the growth of the EU - none obviously.

Now as an unaffiliated European country, we will soon be able to grown our one 'unelected bureaucrats' - here we seem to prefer to call them the 'Civil Service'. But doing they have the skills today to run the country?

We should bear in mind that the Government does not run the country, but shedloads of 'Sir Humphreys' - maybe that's what is called 'getting our country back' wink grin wink

railman Mon 08-May-17 19:02:00

Wow Daphnedil - I'd seen an image of that front page before - but it does make you think doesn't it - many of our relatives, fought, were injured or died to bring a lasting peace to Europe - it is so sad to see the divisive rhetoric around today.