Should I vote Labour Mark 11

costing

Come on Annie, at least they've made a stab at cosing - Tories haven't even done that

No fees come September for new students

No fees for those who have started their studies

All this to be paid before September ,how?

Well, do explain whitewave, as you're so knowledgeable on the subject.

None So blind

It would seem that Labours promises are costed via huge amounts of borrowing together with ensuring that as many businesses as possible either go down,leave the country, or cut staff to an absolute minimum.

Sorry X post Ana .

Have all free school meals , free music lessons etc been costed ?

Free university places this year, where will this come from? Will universities wait untill the taxes of the wealthy few have been paid ?

Snap!

Costed perhaps , so much borrowing

If by 'costed' you mean funded by borrowing, yes I can believe that of the Labour Party policies.

angelab I agree the arts are important but should they not be considered a "luxury". If your household budget is strained you would concentrate on the essentials and would only pay for luxuries when things improved.

sunseeker I agree with you up to a point, but my DD got a first in English literature and is hoping for a career in film production which will involve doing an MA. The arts are important too!!

It is odd that individuals persist in the myth that Labours policies are uncosted.

It is the TORIES whose policies are uncosted.

How about doing away with university fees for those taking courses which are beneficial to the country, medicine, science, engineering (I know there are many others) but charging fees for courses such as film, theatre, history of art etc.

And how many of these businesses will leave the country .

This labour manifesto is definitely Land of Oz

Waiting for - those payIng rent will have their rent paid

JC seems to be trying to please everyone by giving things away like a man possessed.

Where is all of this damned money going to come from? It can only be one of a handful of things;

Massive borrowing (leaving our DC and DGC saddled with national debts for ever)
Raising taxes/ VAT etc. (despite promising otherwise).
Hammering businesses to the point of extinction. JC hates business (they tend not to be members of Unite)

Promise everything and when it proves impossible to deliver it all, just say "Oh we'll have to put up taxes/VAT/our borrowing" to pay for it.

My biggest fear too Elegran

My DD has student loans from a few years ago. This is a debt that she will probably be saddled with for life. Having said that, she does not use the degree she got and probably should never have gone to uni at all. What we don't need is a massive rise in young people going to university courtesy of the tax payer taking degrees that are neither use nor ornament.

Don't read right wing rags whitewave.

Polls closing - just watch the right wing rags go into overdrive trashing Corbyn

It must mean that. They could support them by saying, "Arts and Music are good", until they were blue in the face without doing any good.

Promise everything and when it proves impossible to deliver it all, just say "Oh we'll have to put up taxes/VAT/our borrowing" to pay for it.

This is my problem, I said recently I was supporting Welsh Labour, Jen told me there was just labour atcwestminster and I should deal with it.

So I vote labour and my granddaughter still pays university fees because she doesn't live in England.

The many not the few I suppose

Now they are going to support arts, music and film, does this mean give money?

Is Corbyn ever going into Tory held constituencies to csmpaign?

Well, there will certainly be more rushing to apply now!

How many go to university in England and how many leave education at eighteen? Anyone know ?