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Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

rosesarered Thu 18-May-17 21:17:38

I support May for the GE because a Corbyn led government could bring the UK to financial ruin.
The next one (GE) in 5 years could well be different to my voting intentions.

rosesarered Thu 18-May-17 21:14:42

I never put problems on GN.

durhamjen Thu 18-May-17 17:28:51

In that case, roses, next time you put a problem on GN, you ought to give us your whole life story, so we know the full facts before we respond.

Can you tell us why you support May all the time?

Anniebach Thu 18-May-17 17:21:40

Perhaps people who have heavy debts from gambling or over spending with credit cards roses

Not one police officer in my area lives in rented accommodation, not one of our workmen earn over £30,000, as do police officers, and not one goes to a food bank ,

rosesarered Thu 18-May-17 17:16:57

Yes durhamjen is the answer to the question 'I am not going to believe you etc'
It would be naive and wrong to believe everything you see and hear, you would want the full facts.

rosesarered Thu 18-May-17 17:13:14

Of course nurses and policemen can afford to buy food, we have both in the family and they earn a good salary!
As ab says it will be teachers next, then maybe firemen and who knows after that?
No, they are well paid, so the examples you hear on tv and radio are extreme cases, where you need to know the whole back story.
Why are we not hearing about cleaners and shop workers using food banks, who earn considerably less!

Anniebach Thu 18-May-17 16:46:59

Then we can assume teachers too use food banks ? Do police no longer receive housing allowance ?

angelab Thu 18-May-17 16:22:10

ab are you suggesting that there are no nurses or policement who can't afford to buy food? You should see what just the cost of keeping a roof over your head is where I live. I'm impressed so many of them can afford to buy food!

Anniebach Thu 18-May-17 15:54:55

I am now irritated by claims of can't sfford food, I don't mean the genuine people eho sre going hungry but nurses using food banks and yesterday - police officers are using food banks

durhamjen Thu 18-May-17 15:49:41

No it isn't. It's important to listen to Hammond's response, telling a nurse that what she says doesn't matter. He actually says at the end "These are the important things.." as if what she is saying isn't important. It is to her and her family.

Do you really want to be judge over every story that you are told about people living in fear?
"I am not going to believe you unless you tell me your whole life story."
Sorry, but that's not on.

Jalima1108 Thu 18-May-17 10:39:14

It is always necessary to hear the back story of any reports too.
A nurse - a student nurse, a healthcare worker, a ward sister? A single mum with how many children, or has she a wage-earning partner? Which area does she live in? We need to know the whole picture as it is all relevant.

Jalima1108 Thu 18-May-17 10:32:36

grin

It got me thinking though Devorgilla. Thinking about my extended family, their lives, what has happened to them, how they have coped and how they vote.

Devorgilla Thu 18-May-17 10:14:10

Apologies Jalima 1108. I posted late at night and forgot how literally every word is taken. MaizieD got it right - the main body of people who just get on with daily life.

durhamjen Wed 17-May-17 22:45:12

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/17/nurse-worried-about-feeding-her-family-hammonds-response-stats-ge17/

Here's a real person asking Hammond how she should feed her children.
He's a robot, too.
This is why you should do as Devorgilla says and vote Labour.

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 22:39:57

Got it. Thanks. I was skim reading a bit too skimmily...

I'm sure Devorgilla will explain what she means, but I would have thought that it was perhaps a way to refer to the mass of the population who don't have any particular influence or any particular wealth or privilege and just get on with their daily lives the best way they can.

You're right about the threads. I'm getting a bit lost off at times..

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 22:28:17

am I on the right thread MaizieD?

They are all becoming homogeneous!

Oh yes, it was Devorgilla Wed 17-May-17 21:01:07

daphnedill Wed 17-May-17 22:22:33

But what the heck do you mean by the "far left"? What do you fear? I really can't see Corbyn mobilising a Red Army to snatch everyone's worldy goods!

PS. Corbyn isn't going to be PM, but this Project Fear "Far Left" stuff is baffling!

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 22:18:01

real people, Jalima? Who said that and in what context?

Jalima1108 Wed 17-May-17 21:59:21

real people.
What is the definition of real in this context please?

All people are real, from multi-millionaires to a homeless person; they all have hopes, despair, differing expectations but all are real surely.

The 'man or woman in the street' is also real but they are not all homogenous.

Anniebach Wed 17-May-17 21:37:29

Another attack of - with hindsight I was wrong ?

rosesarered Wed 17-May-17 21:30:23

So it seems ab although he wasn't sure last time I looked.grin

Anniebach Wed 17-May-17 21:17:41

So now Corbyn is against freedom of movement ?

rosesarered Wed 17-May-17 21:04:01

The Conservatives will win this time, but not neccessarily the next one.If Labour change Leader and direction away from the far left then they have a chance in five years.

Devorgilla Wed 17-May-17 21:01:07

For those of you still deciding just ask yourself if you want to wake up on June 9th to 10 years of Tory Government (and it will be) with the devastating effects that all that will have on real people. If not then vote Labour JC and all. He's far from being my choice as leader but I would rather have five years of a Labour Government that one more day of a Tory one. The next five years will be about Brexit and very little else will get a look in. Look beyond the Brexit talks and think what a massive majority Tory Government will do to the fabric of this country. I want a Government that halts the decline of the NHS and stops the disintegration of our school system and if Labour achieves that plus Brexit that will do for me. Sooner or later all leaders, including TM and JC, become footnotes in history.

MaizieD Wed 17-May-17 20:19:20

I expect the building industry likes them because Labour is actually promising them some real money instead of leaving it up to local, cash strapped, councils..