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Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

daphnedill Fri 12-May-17 21:44:22

I'm being kind.

daphnedill Fri 12-May-17 21:44:05

Go on! Start talking sense!

daphnedill Fri 12-May-17 21:43:35

Go on, *roses! Start talking sense!

rosesarered Fri 12-May-17 21:43:24

Also, if far left is used as a criticism, then far right certainly is too.
That's why the UK is a moderate country where politics is concerned,nobody much likes either extreme.

daphnedill Fri 12-May-17 21:42:54

Go on then roses! Explain your definitions!

I know exactly how I define hard right, although I've never given a definition on here. I have briefly posted some of my background. Maybe you missed it.

Go on roses! This is my challenge to you. Contribute to a real and rational discussion about political theory. I might even take anything you write seriously.

rosesarered Fri 12-May-17 21:38:04

Hard left and hard right probably mean different things to different people, for instance, what would it mean to a Marxist?As opposed to a normal Labour voter.

whitewave Fri 12-May-17 21:34:23

dd I can explain what I mean by hard right if you prefergrin

rosesarered Fri 12-May-17 21:32:41

Am sure they can do dd ( I already have) but maybe posters feel they know what they mean and shouldn't have to 'explain it'.

daphnedill Fri 12-May-17 21:30:59

I think it's strange that people who come out with "far left" as a criticism, can't explain what they actually mean.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:57:32

I hadn't seen the Adam Bolton one but it just sums up what the journalists are doing, trivialising the LP guests and not calling the Tory ones to account. If that is not biased I don't know what is. With that and giving more time to UKIP than the Greens and there needs to be some calling to account. I know Adam Bolton is from Sky but they are all doing the same.

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 19:38:29

Corbyn was in the back with his momentum advisor

Ana Fri 12-May-17 19:34:40

Don't even know whether Corbyn can actually drive. Only ever seen him on a bike...

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:26:18

Yes, that Nick Robinson interview was on the link I gave.
I have seen Gardiner on a few interviews lately. He really knows how to pinpoint the discussion and keep it relevant.
I loved the way he told Robinson not to ask a question then answer it himself.
Anyone in Gardiner's constituency needs to vote for him whatever their politics, just to keep him there.

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:25:14

It was a police driver driving the car. Just in case anyone feels like blaming Corbyn for it.

There was a guy on one of the Election programmes who was there to balance Polly Toynbee (although there was no balance as he was a Tory and PT - well!) and he gave a list of sins and the last was running over a photographers foot!!!

Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 19:24:05

lickspittle love it!

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:21:31

Not that I feel strongly or anything grin

GracesGranMK2 Fri 12-May-17 19:21:00

He is a lovely man Jen and beautifully well mannered but oh how he flatten Nick Robinson this morning; I was cheering when heard it.

I want to know what the parties have to say not the journalists (I may have said that on here previouslysmile) and he was totally right when he said Nick Robinson was 'trivialising' the debate. So many of them are doing just that are with arch criminal on this being Andrew Neil. I think there should be a review into the Beeb after the election as all they are doing is following May's lead - they are lickspittles and it's time we saw even handed coverage.

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:16:13

It was a police driver driving the car. Just in case anyone feels like blaming Corbyn for it.

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 19:09:40

Before McClusky fell Corbyns car ran over the foot of a BBC cameraman, he was taken to hospital by ambulance , the cameraman not Corbyn

rosesarered Fri 12-May-17 19:04:48

Ana did he trip or was he pushed? grin

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:02:00

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/12/exclusive-gardiner-on-defence-manifesto-boulton-and-being-internet-sensation/

durhamjen Fri 12-May-17 19:01:19

skwawkbox.org/2017/05/12/barry-gardiner-labours-media-man-on-fire-has-interviewers-feeling-the-burn-videos/

Anniebach Fri 12-May-17 18:51:11

Chewbacca, I thought we needed a giggle, thank you ?

Ana Fri 12-May-17 18:47:27

Did you see that photo of McCluskey sprawling on the steps with some woman feeling his ankle?

Poor man apparently tripped (mind you, he's 66 so perhaps he 'had a fall'!)

Chewbacca Fri 12-May-17 18:23:21

"Corbyn, McDonald, McClusky and the Momemtum" that reminds me of Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble & Grub, from Trumpton. grin