Impressive post gg
Farage fails to report 5 million gift!
Yes I know it's hard to imagine that there's even more but why on earth are they going to change the voting system for electing mayors and police and crime commissioners? Oh wait a minute, is it because, surely not, that it would advantage them?
Impressive post gg
"Conservatives also have a strong need to keep a tight control of the world around them, they seem to fear change and make sense of social reality via taxonomies, categories and counts. As a defense mechanism, it's really rather anally retentive.
They think that inequality is the "natural order" of things, based on notions of "deserving" and "undeserving", so inevitably, they think some people's lives are worth less than others. They don't seperate wealth, power and status from rights, unfortunately, and miss the whole point of universal human rights frameworks. For the New Right neoliberals, the only rights that matter are property rights and the liberty to compete for resources and wealth. However, human rights are all about holding the wealthy and powerful to account, to prevent abuses of power."
Politics and Insights - what makes a Conservative?
Brainwashing? I have ears and eyes Corbyn is embarrassment to labour and Diane Abbott even worse offering All these extra police with no.idea of funding.
It would be funny if not so serious but they are not serious opposition
You criticised Corbyn for going away for a couple of days in the referendum campaign.
Even when it was pointed out to you that it was his borthday, you still continued with your campaign against him. No allowances for him whatsoever.
You were never even concerned that May hid during the campaign, just Corbyn going away for a couple of days.
The government has a lot on it's plate what with Cobra meetings/G7 meetings etc up to now, so why expect speeches just at the moment?
I expect the electioneering will get under way again after the Bank Holiday, there is still worry that terrorists will strike again.
No, Annie, I just prefer the truth to the smears that you like.
I didn't say Corbyn made a speech BECAUSE it was his birthday.
You should really choose your words more carefully.
Celebgran you seem to be a perfect example that brainwashing of the cult type works. You say At least Theresa may gives one confidence in her ability. It seems to say to me that she is out of her depth and trying to deal with things beyond her capabilities - and I base this on evidence not what the Tories and/or the Mayteam tell me to think.
As Home Secretary she let in more EU immigrants in six years than the previous Labour Government did in 13. That would be great if it was what she intended to do but it really, really wasn't. In fact the same promise was made again and again ... and, another fact, again this time. So yes, she provided stability but it was the stability of not fulfilling what she had promised. I wonder how she will now, stably, not fulfil it if she is running the country? In this instance she blamed the EU even though we could actually have done more within the rules. She is now showing the stability of her nature by finding someone else to blame - usually Jeremy Corbyn.
Again, in the only office we have really known her in we have seen the closure of hundreds of police stations when she strongly showed how little she understands about community. In the last six years she showed her strength by sacking more than 16,000 police officers; during that time we have seen crime and anti-social behaviour rise rapidly - but in a stable manner of course.
As PM she flexed her political muscles to show her strength by taking on the High Court and the Supreme Court in a bid to put through the Brexit deal without a vote in parliament. In the stable manner we have grown to know she was beaten on just about every matter of law in the land.
She held back her strength for reasons best know to herself and said next to nothing about the growing threat of a North Korean nuclear arsenal and hasn’t made a single statement on the escalating conflict in Syria.
The stability she wants is that of the 1970s with a school system reform that we know doesn’t work (but it does keep people in their place). Education systems throughout the world have proved that grammar schools are relics that do not improve attainment or social mobility. Will her strength make her MPs vote for it in parliament - absolutely not.
In a rather underhand way - but strongly aiming to impose her will - she decided to introduce a schools funding formula that takes roughly £400 per student away from every single school but again, her own MPs are unlikely to support her on it - but this may become the new stability as she proposes things that will either never see the light of day of, if they do, she will lose.
... and the social care crisis, felt by many and crippling Local Authorities was so unimportant - well the people suffering are obviously not strong are they - that it wasn't even mentioned in her Government’s first Autumn Statement.
Then there is the devolved Government of Northern Ireland which has all but collapsed but she hasn’t found time in her diary to get over to Belfast to sort it out and help keep the stability it so needs.
On the day she triggered article 50 she suggested that if the EU deal was a bad one that she would accept no deal - is that really what people call strong? It sounds like a child who refuses to eat anything because they don't like what they have been offered knowing that eventually someone will help them out. No one will come to May's aid from the EU. She then went on to admit (in one of her many strongly made changes of mind) that a no deal would leave the UK unsafe and without proper intelligence sharing arrangements meaning a terrorist attack could be on the cards. This means however strong she wants us to believe she is she is not strong enough to say this is negotiation not a Neanderthal beating of the chest.
She strongly ruled out calling a General Election ELEVEN times because she said it wasn’t right to take the country’s focus away from the most important post-war negotiation. Then she wavered and changed her mind (again).
Now during the General Election she strongly insists that no journalist, member of the public or any opposition MP inconvenience her by asking her questions or calling on her to go on television and talk to the 65 million people she hopes to govern. She has stably continued to treat the voters in this way.
The Tories have persuade some that an economy that sends people into working poverty, without care, and limiting the pay of the ordinary person while enhancing the incomes of the rich is a strong economy - I would call that a broken economy but then I don't believe the propaganda.
Now May has tried to persuade the same people that she is both strong and stable. Look at the evidence; she is showing herself to be a person who is only happy in the Westminster bubble where people do as they are told and she can blame someone else if she gets it wrong. Strong and stable? Giving us confidence in her ability? Pull the other one!
Jen, I said UKIP Thursday.
Corbyn made a speech because it was his birthday? That is worrying.
And please do try to post the truth, I did not critcise Corbyn for going on hols for his birthday last year, I critcised him for going on hols in the middle of the referendum campaign.
You really have a thing for him Jen , rather sweet, you are as devoted as Ms Abbott 
Did you miss the UKIP manifesto launch on Thursday, Annie?
Corbyn made speeches because he was on Neil's show.
You didn't expect him to hide, did you? You'd have criticised him for that - on his birthday, too.
Last year you criticised him for taking a couple of days off over his birthday. This year you criticise him for making a speech on his birthday.
annie the Tories didn't make any speeches yesterday because they are panicking and have all rushed back to party HQ. I wonder if May will be forced to listen to the other party members?
Sorry, forgot, UKIP made a big speech Thursday, Labour Friday. The other parties chose to wait out of respect for the atrocity at Manchester
harrigan then if the manifesto is so brilliant, why are they going for a reconstruction. It will be amusing to hear their explanations for it all.
Labour manifesto has been well received in spite of all the rubbish being spewed by the gutter press. And to succeed in being heard and generally accepted despite all the clamour from this gutter press is impressive indeed.
"Where is the investment in our public services? Why are rogue multinationals making billions from the public on the pretext of “saving money”? If that’s “economic competence” then I’m Jerry Cornelius, one of the greatest fictional and darkly hilarious anti-hero nihilists of all time.
What have the Conservatives done wth OUR money, our NHS and our public services? And why on earth would we continue letting them “disappear” our money, adding to the now massive national deficit? The Conservatives have borrowed more money this past seven years than every single Labour government combined throughout history. There is NOTHING to show for it, except for a few rogue multinationals like Atos, Maximus and G4S making huge and private profit and a few millionaires hoarding our wealth and demanding more."
Can you really support this, roses?
The conservatives didn't make speeches yesterday , or the other parties, exception was Labour.
Jane 
Exactly harrigran
What the Conservatives did re the manifesto could well have been the right things to propose, although unpopular generally.That doesn't mean the Labour manifesto is a great one......far from it!
Apparently there is sheer panic in the Tory camp.
Why didn't Davis make his planned Brexit speech yesterday? It is odd as the election is supposed to be all about Brexit.
The gutter press will be out all guns blazing next week
Slagging off Theresa May and calling her silly names and also picking holes in the conservative manifesto does not make the Labour party the great political party you want it to be or indeed make Corbyn competent.
You appear to be making as many u-turns on the manifesto as Mayhem, roses.
Are you sure you are not her?
Thinking of the cabinet and the shadow cabinet , I dispair ,
Or woman!
We will agree to disagree Anya
and may the best man win on the day!
If you compare the two manefestos Roses the Labour one is by far the better for the country and all the groups I've named. I might have accepted that the Tories were making essential cuts to get the country out of the red had the National Debt decreased. But it hasn't. All this pain and angst has been for nothing 
I'm not a Corbyn fan, as I've said before, but I've become increasingly alarmed by the sheer dithering of May and her attempt to play the Strong Woman. Nor do I have confidence in those around her.
Some businesses may leave the country because of Brexit, because they need to be in an EU country, that doesn't mean we should increase corporation tax in order to drive other businesses out!
The manifesto may be the right choices, but politically it was either brave or stupid.
Labour have simply promised everything, there is money for all, you name it, you got it!
I think whatever mistakes they have made/will make, the Conservatives will do a better job for the country this time round.
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