A Labour Government.

I don't know who McDonald is, but if Labour wins on Thursday, I'm 100% that Corbyn and Abbott will still be members.

Some people with special needs also develop mental health problems in the same way that neurotypical children/adults do, I know three such people.
Anything that helps with parity is welcome and long overdue.

You're correct whitewave. TM was approached by a lady with special needs and asked what she was going to do. TM immediately started to defend her record on mental health. For a start, there are two different funding streams. Mental health funding comes from the NHS, whereas most learning disability funding now comes from local authorities.

Very interesting to hear Ed Milliband on Today this morning. He was very positive and pointed out that this is the first time that TM has had to stand up for the governments history. It was good to see someone who calls himself Labour working for, rather than against a Labour victory.

She has called the election for her own political gains. "I enjoy doing this job", for heavens sake I hope it means more than just a job to her when she is making life changing decisions for other people.

Austerity has gone on for much longer than was needed for purely ideological reasons. They are behaving like someone who had a shocking illness and had to stop working (the world economic downturn) and for a couple of years cut their budget back to the absolute essential and even less but now they are just about over the illness will now not finance a car to get to a job to generate more income; they will not buy new clothes to put themselves up for that job; they will not learn new skills to put themselves in a better place. Scarcity (or just being scared) is making them make the wrong decisions. They, and the country will just about survive under this regime but it cannot thrive; at least, all the people cannot only a select few.

I am not whitewave, sadly you will find out I am not. I understand your blind trust in Corbyn, no way could you want a labour government more than I do but when Corbyn,McDonald and Abbott are running the country it will not be a labour government

Annie if you. have been a Labour Party member for 50 years you must have joined when Clause 4 was still in operation and the whole party believed in nationalisation. So either you joined a party with ideas you didn't agree with or you accepted party policy then but changed when Blair abandoned Clause 4. Either way it isn't exactly an example of sticking to principles is it?

annie you are simply wrong

rose are you sure she wasn't thinking of special needs? Only she didn't seem to know the difference between mental health and special needs? The extra money she is so fond of talking about will simply be shifted from one NHS budget to another.

The saddest thing of all is giving people hope with wild promises and whipping up hysteria in some people. Seems next Friday will be Christmas Day and birthday in one.

Evil....blood on their hands this is OTT. People with complex mental needs are often let down (by all governments) and bureauocracy.T May has just promised parity for mental health ( long overdue in the UK) as it has always played second fiddle to physical health.

One of the saddest things when watching last nights debate, is knowing that people like that partially sighted young woman is desperate for things to change to give her a better life.
Corbyn has done a sterling job in the 3 weeks that he has been given a platform in which to argue his case, and there is no doubt that his case is becoming more and more popular as people get to listen. The really saddest thing of all though are those Labour Party members whose self indulgeance and vanity in their dislike of Corbyn are willing to let people like that lady go to the wall on Tory ideaology rather than get behind Corbyn and get rid of the evil that is the Tory party.

They will have blood on their hands.

The Telegraph knows there's such a thing as a magic money tree:

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11898546/There-is-a-magic-money-tree-and-five-other-facts-about-money.html

David Cameron tried to claim there was no magic money tree in 2013. Even ConservativeHome disagreed.

www.conservativehome.com/the-deep-end/2013/03/david-cameron-is-wrong-there-is-a-magic-money-tree-but-it-only-grows-in-the-gardens-of-the-rich.html

Most serious economists disagree with Cameron,Osborne, May and Rudd.

ps doing what is necessary is not necessarily what the nation needs!
Necessary to keep his supporters happy or to fudge over certain 'principles' which may not appeal to the majority of the populace.

pragmatic - doing what is necessary (which may not be sticking to his principles) and not necessarily practical although he does have an allotment which he says he would keep on if elected to government.

Got to keep the nation fed.

Corbyn wanted out ,

Not heard anything particularly practical so far from him

Corbyn may prove to be more pragmatic than principled.

It is widely assumed that he was a Brexiteer but half-heartedly supported Remain - is that a man of principle?

Realy Welshwife? Yet anyone who posts here and sticks with their principles if a certain few disagree the poster is vilified , so hardly making the world a better place?

If their principles are good or for the good then that's a good thing that people have principles but where they won't give an inch & don't care what affect it may have on others then it is not a good thing which is is why people often cannot agree on the best course of action.... as I said principles are fine in ' principle ' but surely not at any cost or care for the affect on others . for example a principle in politics may be a good thing , but if the person holding that principle cannot adjust their thinking when it is blatantly hurting others then they should be able to relinquish their principles & concede that there may be a better course of action .

It depends, surely, on what those principles actually are. Not all of them are what we'd consider to be 'good'.

I agree - people should have principles -- if more people had them the world would not be in such a mess.

I think you're using agreement with something in principle out of the usual context norose.

To have principles is to have fundamental beliefs which form the basis for your behaviour or for your line of reasoning. Usually when referring to our moral beliefs and standards.

To agree with something in principle means you agree with the idea in general, although you might not always support it totally or in even in every situation.

I prefer to think in terms of agreeing with something 'in principle ' but not doggedly sticking to something that has the potential to be counter productive or even harmful

How sad that you think people shouldn't have principles.