Bias on the BBC

Apologies!I assumed that the Indy had been sold along with the "i".

There's a link on the Indy website to the Evening Standard, which is definitely owned by the Lebedev brothers, so you're almost certainly right. I wonder how many people still read it since it stopped producing a print edition.

Sorry i is now owned by Johnston Press.

I can't find who owns the Independent. All websites still say Lebedev. Who owns it now?

paddyann, I KNOW there were faults both sides, living in a South Wales mining valley one lived with families who left Ireland to wotk in the pits. You obviously support forcing UK citizens out of the UK, and my son in laws step fsther comes from Irelsnd, plus my godfather was from .Ireland and I worked in a RC convent, possibly my knowledge of the history of Ireland is far wider thsn you judge it to be.

PS. Lebedev sold the Independent last year.

Anniebach think if you look back you'll discover there were murderers on both sides of the divide and in the British army .even then some of us could see that there were faults on ALL sides.As for a united Ireland ,well it makes sense doesn't it? With Brexit it might even happen

I didn't say which are suspected tax avoiders in case I got done for libel but you can easily find out online or just make a good guess

That is a useful and accurate list vq

Hardly surprising that the readers of most of these papers were so easily fooled into voting for brexit and will probably be fooled again next week into supporting the Theresa May party.

The power of these foreign and tax exile billionaires is truly frightning. It makes a mockery of our so-called democracy.

Music and Art have traditionally been used to inform the public and challenge the status quo. I'm sure out there on the ether somewhere is a song that's equally scathing of JC. It's just that no one is buying it

The media is owned by a few very rich people or companies with their own agendas. Nothing to do with reporting the facts.

The Times, Sunday Times, The Scum and the Scum on Sunday - Rupert Murdoch. Billionaire. Lives in US.

The Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday and Metro - Lord Rothermere. Billionaire. Lives in France.
Non-domiciled for UK tax

The Daily Mirror, The Sunday Mirror, The People, Daily Record, Sunday Mail - Trinity Mirror PLC. Public Limited Company.

The Guardian, The Observer - Scott Trust Ltd. A company with purpose “to secure Guardian’s independence”

The Telegraph, The Sunday Telegraph - David and Frederick Barclay. Billionaires. Live on private island near Sark.

The Independent, i, Independent on Sunday - Alexander and Evgeny Lebedev. Alexander is billionaire, ex-KGB and lives in Russia. Evgeny lives in UK

The Daily Express, The Sunday Express, The Daily Star, The Daily Star Sunday - Richard Desmond. Billionaire pornographer.

Good song catchy rhythm. Will be hated by the Tories who are plainly rattled. Don't know why, they've got the entire media on their side, plus masses of cash flowing into their coffers from the rich.

Yes, because that was the title of a song, not something being stated as fact.

I am in the wrong for speaking the truth about Corbyn on a thread where the very first line is all about the PM being a liar ?

It's not an objection to threads wandering exactly, vampirequeen, it is the take over for one repeated purpose which I am questioning as I have certainly seen such things taken off for trolling on other forums.

It is obvious that the Conservatives are rattled as Toby Young (never the most pleasant person to watch) was attempting to spread fake news on the Daily Politics today. Luckily Paul Mason was there to call it out but Jo Coburn - representing the "unbiased" BBC said ... nothing.

Quite right, vq, and my apologies for getting involved in the diversion.

Can't see what's left to debate about the banning of an anti-May song by the Beeb. No doubt they'd have banned an anti-Corbyn one or similar.

What's to debate?

And her point was?

Anniebach, GracesgranMK2 made it clear she wanted the thread to return to the point in her OP therefore this is not the place to debate anything else.

GG, you concern that I may be in distress and your reluctance to seem unkind is touching . Are you Ill?

Angelab, you would have welcomed them to your place of work if you had a family member, friend , colleague blown up ?

I have no problem with him supporting the IRA, his decision, it's his pretence it was for peace . He attends a memorial tribute for dead IRA mrmbers and now claims he did it for all who died , how can anyone believe this lie.

I attended many prayers for peace for NI, Protestants, Catholics together, held in different places of worship, Anglican, RC, Baptist, Methodist churches and in a field so atheists could join but didn't want to go into a church.

Fgs, Annie, we've been around this block before. I imagine anyone who was grieving after the Brighton bombing would be glad of anything that might stop it happening again.

Surely we can have some ruling on AB taking over every single thread with only her anti-Corbyn rants. I agree that on a thread about Corbyn, or even a general thread about the election they might be relevant but, without wishing to be unkind to someone who appears to be in some distress, I feel sure this would be seen as trolling on many other forums as it seems to be to intentionally to close down any other political discussion.

Vampirequeen, the Brighton bombing was 1984, do you have no problem that just a few weeks later Corbyn invited IRA mrmbers to Westminster regardless that people there were grieving and shocked, even Tories are capable of experiencing grief you know . This is not the actions of a person of compassion and caring ,nwould you have done the same ?

God Save the Queen by the Sex Pistols? Still haven't heard it - not that I particularly want to...

And yes Liar Liar is catchy too.

VQ
Another one for your playlist. I still love to hear Amyl Nitrate's version of Rule Britannia. I'm no spring chicken as I remember seeing the film in 1977.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRg5pLD9EI

GG I think there is a bit of bias coming out of the Beeb. Nothing like the disgraceful lies, fake news and bias coming from the right wing tabloid scumbags.