I am perfectly calm durhamjen, just stating the facts, something a certain trio on here can't comprehend.a . Whitewave, Daphnedill, you seem to result to personal insults if you haven't an answer, is that how you deal with everything? I can understand youngsters being taken in by the promise of freebies for nothing, but those of us who have always had to work and know what happened in the seventies should have learnt some thing. May messed up, we have to make the best of a bad job, anything is better than the alternative.