Democracy hahahaha

I've got a good idea. Freeze the state pension and stop winter fuel allowance, etc. Charge pensioners for prescriptions and cap the amount they can cost the NHS. If they don't have any money they'll die younger anyway.

That would bring the deficit down in no time! Pensions, pensioner benefits and pensioner use of the NHS costs billions - much more than abolishing tuition fees and giving every child in the country a free school meal.

Before anybody shouts at me, I'm not serious, but can people seriously not see the irony of moaning about young people voting for a manifesto which might benefit them?

I haven't seen much evidence that over 65s know much about finances, economics or sovereign debt.

Sorry - "Alie"!

Alive people's welfare is entirely dependant on money! I think that was Cardiff's point.

Well said Gardenman, well said.

I am so pleased that the kids turned out to vote, they can see that if they vote they can help to steer the ship in a different direction.

We certainly live in interesting times!

Sorry, CardiffJaguar, but isn't that naysaying?

I'm inclined to think that people's welfare is vastly more important than money

This election is a clear demonstration of how democracy can work well; so all those complaining about it (democracy)and the naysayers can stop moaning and analyse the results. There is one significant matter that ought to concern us: the growing divide between young and old.

Jeremy Corbyn has got a huge number of younger voters who are in it for the first time. These are the least knowledgable about finance, economics, law, international relations, diplomacy and most importantly our sovereign debt. That debt has been increasing ever since the financial crisis.

We are still some way from a fiscal balance year on year. Spend even more on tick? With interest rates so low it is still a huge sum to cover each year so what will happen when interest rates rise? If we have not by then brought our national finances into a better position the austerity we have had so far will look like an easy life compared to what we could be facing.

This election was wholly unnecessary. May has let everyone down. We are now in a period of uncertainty. Just when we do need a period of stability; how ironic is that?

I feel hopeful that there may be Tories who won't stay with her and DUP and make her gov even worse off
Strong and stable my arse

Incredibly they have even turned street lights off at night

but that is not just to save money but also to save energy in order to meet carbon emission targets
the Campaign to Protect Rural England has previously called for more councils to dim lights to "reduce the impact of light pollution.
They are not turned off in potential crime areas.

Councils are installing low energy, low light polluting street lighting as much as possible too.

However, it would be useful if they turned them off during the day in some areas!

Am I right in thinking that there are still restrictions on the number of council houses that can be built?

I for one am dependent on the NHS for treatment and my health is not great.....

I think a lot of decisions made by politicians of all parties have dire consequences beyond anything that their brains can imagine.

There has been plenty of time to build more council houses, build more hospitals etc etc but there has not been the will.
However, you can't re-write history and take back two wars with far-reaching disastrous consequences.

Exactly, Gardenman!

Things like this cannot be said too often. Perhaps one day they'll actually go in and people will realise how everything we've taken for granted has been stolen from us...

If you look back in history you will notice everything the Tories do has dire consequences long-term. They sell off all the large mental hospitals hence mentally ill patients are in prison or police station cells NOT because they are criminals but because of the lack of hospital beds. They sold off council houses cheap and kept the money so councils could not build new houses hence housing crisis.The list is endless... They can not even manage to hold a general election without making the UK unstable and the laughing stock of the world. With all their cuts cuts and more cuts how have any of us benefited from them? Incredibly they have even turned street lights off at night whilst at the same time reduced the police by 20,000. Mrs May said before the election that she wants to implement the Naylor report whereby she wants to sell off all NHS land and buildings to private developers cheaply!!!!

Mumsnet

Suggesting that the Tories may be acting against the Good Friday Agreement because they would be siding with one side.

Sinn fein can complain that the Tories is siding with the DUP.

It ain't going to work

How any voter especially Tory voters can accept a coalition with the DUP Party is beyond me. If I were a Tory voter I would be protesting loudly at a party that can join with a party who is against Gay rights and abortion. We have gone back to the dark ages. It's no wonder the youth of today despair.

The more i listen the worse it gets May should definately NOT DO A DEAL with the DUP.

Whoops phone!
Sinn fein

Very unhappy about unionists - said when unionist do a deal with the Tories it always ends in tears

Sien faye

I like the idea of having 2 boxes against each name on the ballot paper (clearly marked, of course).

One: you mark an x if you want that person/party
Two: you mark an x if you don't want that person/party

then the winner has all their nos deducted from their yeses and that's their final vote.

Might be able to avoid tactical voting like this, if you could say who you didn't want...

If she went, who might we get instead? Amber Rudd? Boris Johnson? Jeremy Hunt? Philip Hammond? G-d help us all!
On a different point, we were given the chance to change our system a few years ago but the majority voted against proportional representation - I thought it was a mistake then and the past 2 elections have merely served to reinforce that view.

I prophesy trouble in Ireland.....

Paddy Ashdown

May is willing to take a side with one side of the sectarian divide - that is a disaster