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Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 07:33:30

Ten DUP MP's calling the shots? I despair.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 10:18:37

Just keep steady folks and keep arguing -we will get there it is just a matter of time

Diddy1 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:14:31

What a mess!

Jaycee5 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:13:48

The DUP:
1. Want to legalise discrimination about LGBT people.
2. Homophobia is deep rooted in the party.
3. The are anti women's rights.
4. They oppose gay marriage.
5. They support the death penalty.
6. They want to ban begging.
7. They are besties with UKIP.
8. They could hold the balance of power within a
weakened Tory government with a weak Theresa May.

Sheilasue Fri 09-Jun-17 10:09:59

thought we were shot if her and them, pity, but is going to be interesting to see what happens.

annifrance Fri 09-Jun-17 10:07:55

Always said Vince Cable is the only one fit to lead the country. What a shambles.

Macron gaining ground big time here in France. So I'm OK for the time being.

Skweek1 Fri 09-Jun-17 10:01:57

Oh, how I agree - purleeeeze not Bojo - anyone else ... apart from TM, Amber Rudd, Jeremy Corbyn, the Millipede brothers, David Blunkett, Diane Abbott ... well almost anyone else!

sweetcakes Fri 09-Jun-17 09:55:37

DUP apparently although supporting brexit wants a open border with southern Ireland that's what they want!
And it looks like Boris will do what he always does and turn on TM and blather his way through it what a waste of space that man is.

Maggiemaybe Fri 09-Jun-17 09:54:51

Now I'm very sleep deprived, roses (I just managed a three hours doze), but I'm sure I saw Anna Soubry retain her seat at some stage during the long night. Sorry to disappoint you! I was euphoric when I heard Philip Davies had lost Shipley and sadly he's still there. angry

Have a great holiday. smile

AllTheLs Fri 09-Jun-17 09:53:07

The cat'll be getting more respect!

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 09:51:26

Past not part!

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 09:50:52

Don't be fooled rose May isn't in power. She remains as the bigger party, but has little power now. She is absolutely cobbled because she is in thrall to her back benchers and the DUP that reactionary party from NI. With friends like those!!!!

radicalnan Fri 09-Jun-17 09:50:19

They are all shits. We have in my lifetime had a government in power for a long time, of each of the main parties, poor people still poor, taxes still wasted, and leadership shoddy.

When will we ever learn?

MaizieD Fri 09-Jun-17 09:50:04

Soubry didn't lose her seat, roses. It was misreported

Enjoy your holiday. Are you going to find some sun?

rosesarered Fri 09-Jun-17 09:47:02

DD I think that you and Jalima won with the predictions! Medals all round.
What a tempestuous night of politics, ( I slept through it) as we are off on hols in half an hour.
I doubt anyone has to worry about the DUP wanting anything extreme,and there are only ten of them and are allies of the Conservatives anyway.
The awful Salmond and Soubry lost seats, hurrah.Felt sorry for Clegg though.
The Conservatives will have to re-think a few things, but that's doable.
After fighting a pretty poor campaign they are lucky to still be in power, but am pleased that they are.I realise that most on this thread ( so far) won't be, but yes
That's democracy.

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 09:40:05

Sorry dd you're right about devolved issues. Hadn't got part thinking about DWP and defence.Still sleepy!
If they do hook up with DUP the tories lose any last shred of intevrity!
Who am I kidding? They've already done that!

edsnana Fri 09-Jun-17 09:39:48

The arrogance knows no bounds. My awful Tory MP scraped in with 500 votes above Labour. Last time she won by over 4000. She says numbers don't matter. As a feminist I should be proud we have strong women in Parliament, but I despair of this lot

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 09:38:55

That's to dd

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 09:38:22

No! I didn't think so that puts another colour on it

Jaycee5 Fri 09-Jun-17 09:37:03

I'm hoping for some early bye elections. They should be fun.

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 09:36:34

Survation got it right for the second time.

Jaycee5 Fri 09-Jun-17 09:35:37

I think that there needs to be a minimum attendance law for the House of Commons. The idea that Sinn Fein can still be elected as Westminster MPs and then say that they have no intention of attending and thereby skewing democracy cannot be allowed to continue. The Tories will not change it as it would lose them their wafer thin majority but it make a joke of our system.
I agree about the DUP but they would cause the Tories problems. They don't agree with abortion, are against homosexuality and frankly are a bit of a throwback.
Funny though that it is now the Tories who will be creating a coalition of chaos.

Rosina Fri 09-Jun-17 09:34:35

'If it ain't broke don't fix it' has never been better demonstrated! What a shambles - we are in for some lively times now as its likely that parliament will be mud slinging and arguing, blocking each others proposals, and forgetting that they are there for the good of the country as a whole and not to score party points. Pollsters might be out of a job too - they keep getting it wrong! The most valuable asset for anyone now is going to be a sense of humour - we're all going to need one.

daphnedill Fri 09-Jun-17 09:33:11

Can Scottish, Welsh and Irish MPs vote on devolved issues, such as health and social care?

grumppa Fri 09-Jun-17 09:13:20

Look on the bright side. A vote against hard Brexit and Salmond lost his seat.

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 09:11:44

On the big issues the antiTory parties can still outvote Tory+DUP.
No way will the country accept any DUP hard-core policies.
Not time to despair yet!