London fire

True, ww.
Or more New Towns as in the 40s 50s and 60s.

There will be Whitewave

I hope there aren't individuals egging these poor folk on.

The trouble is there is sufficient housing it is just so much of it is owned by foreigners for property speculation, and empty.

I would have thought the shard could have held quite a few homeless.

Terrifying, brings the Brixton riots to mind

The situation is truly awful. But instead of looking to find who's to blame we/they should be looking at how to stop this kind of thing ever happening again.
Too many people live in London. Full Stop.

They don't know what to do next because there are too many involved. Criminal manslaughter. The police are already looking into it.

Yes I saw Barwell -that ex member of Parliament whom the voters rejected but May in her arrogance ignored an brought him back to a non job - on Sky - embarrassing to say the least.

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The folk want information about the dead. I think that they could at least start with an official list of the missing. They have much more information than they are giving out. I don't think there is any conspiracy tbh I just think it is incompetence and not knowing what to do next.

It will all begin to come out now Jen.

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Gavin Barwell's response.

I remember reading that, whitewave.

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Cutting red tape in construction. Look at who is involved.

I hope that the trouble won't be used by the right wing gutter press to turn people's sympathy away from the Grenfill victims and families.

Sheer lack of social housing -an utter scandal.

Nick Clegg reported that the Tories will not build social housing as it creates Labour Voters

Watching the protesters at the council building. It seems to have grown in numbers very quickly - they think it is people coming over from the flats area.

They surged forward and tried to gain access to the building but were turned back.

One arrest has been made apparently.

I would fervently hope that May would come in for a hard time, as it's the only thing that seems to get through her thick skull.

This is an Austerity Disaster and it is laid at the Tories door.

It starts at the top with May and the Tory Council are behaving in the same way.

Kensington Council have handed this appallingly. I am sure they are working hard to sort out immediate accommodation, etc. problems, but neither the leading Councillors nor the leading officials have shown their faces to the people. Total communications cock-up.

What the hell do the authorities expect?

There are high rises all over the world, and fires in them, but it does seem that this building went up like a torch ( indicating the cladding was a problem...or the fitting of it.) An external fire escape would be of no use ( too high anyway) would sprinklers have helped, unknown, but hope the investigation finds the reason quickly and then the government can act in all the cases of other clad high rises.
I lived in a concrete (pebble dashed) high rise once, no cladding, it's still there, maybe doesn't look as attractive but safety comes first.
Must say, that although it would have been better for T May to talk to survivors,
She would have come in for a hard time even though it isn't her fault, simply because she represents the Government.Corbyn is the Opposition, so wouldn't be yelled at, and neither would the Queen.

Have you seen the protest at the town hall. They are saying that some people don't have anywhere to sleep.

Something is afoot at Kensington town hall. Looks like the people have a point to make. Whatever happens now this cannot be brushed under the carpet.

I was watching CNN today and they were appalled at the way the victims families are being kept out of the loop and being told nothing.

There will be trouble if they don't pull their act together

An excellent article by Polly Toynbee Jen. This in particular:

That tower is austerity in ruins. Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the May-Cameron-Osborne era that stripped bare the state and its social and physical protection of citizens. The horror of poor people burned alive within feet of the country’s grandest mansions, many of them empty, moth-balled investments, perfectly captures the politics of the last seven years. The Cameron, Osborne, Gove Notting Hill set live just up the road.