I honestly don't see how significant events like the terrorist attacks in London and Manchester, or today's dreadful fire, can be discussed without reference to the actions of central, local government, our health and emergency services.
I've seen nothing but praise for the emergency or health services. The cuts to their numbers, reduction in job security pay, pensions etc can't be ignored in the discussions.
This fire will inevitably lead to investigation and recommendations. There has to be political will to ensure recommendations are followed. I don't see how it's possible to discuss this without acknowledging The fact this tower block had only one staircase, no sprinklers or fire alarms .
Maybe as has been said, chat is the place to discuss this tragedy without reference to polittics