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GracesGranMK2 Thu 15-Jun-17 11:37:49

Former leadership rival Owen Smith appointed to Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary in Jeremy Corbyn’s reshuffle

Announcing the changes to his Shadow Cabinet, Mr Corbyn said: “I am delighted to announce four appointments to fill shadow cabinet vacancies. I look forward to working with the strengthened shadow cabinet as we prepare a government in waiting to carry out our manifesto for the many not the few.

whitewave Mon 10-Jul-17 15:32:48

I was replying to your sneer and giving examples of what I meant by my remark. But of course you know that don't you? You enjoy playing games. Conversation ended

Ana Mon 10-Jul-17 16:13:05

Thank goodness for that...!

Primrose65 Mon 10-Jul-17 17:03:39

I don't think it's such a big deal with Corbyn and Barnier. I mean, Barnier has met loads of UK politicians in the recent past, both Tory and Labour, and plenty of business people too. The journos are just getting over excited.

petra Mon 10-Jul-17 17:13:06

I'm assuming Bernie knows that Corbyn swings both ways Re brexit. Wish I was a fly on the wall grin

kittylester Mon 10-Jul-17 17:37:33

The preview bit of this thread only shows up to 'both way's', petra. I thought it was breaking news! it really made me giggle - I know, before anyone says anything, infantile! My excuse is that I've just seen the hygienist!! grin

Jalima1108 Mon 10-Jul-17 18:10:11

You need a lie down in a darkened room kittylester, while someone who is very kind makes you some soup. smile

MaizieD Mon 10-Jul-17 18:33:45

I think ww was talking generally about asking for sources for statements and not getting one.

And people do so moan about being given links... So what is one to do to evidence a statement?

durhamjen Mon 10-Jul-17 19:09:31

www.politico.eu/article/jeremy-corbyn-to-meet-michel-barnier-next-week-to-talk-brexit/

durhamjen Mon 10-Jul-17 19:12:44

A link to Bloomberg in that link.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 00:14:01

I wonder how JC will handle his spin doctor Seamus Milne, now he's been caught out cheating on his wife. Not great to be caught on camera in 5* hotels with a woman half the age of your wife.

durhamjen Tue 11-Jul-17 07:49:28

I wonder which newspapers you read. Second thoughts, I think I know.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 08:40:53

That's a silly assumption durhamjen, irrelevant to the facts and a bit aggressive! My nephew is a political journalist and we were talking about it.
Trying to put me down won't stop him being a cheat!

durhamjen Tue 11-Jul-17 08:43:02

And the photo was sold to which newspapers?
Aggressive? Not at all. Just a statement, like yours.

Does Corbyn have to do anything about it?

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 08:59:07

I don't know which papers bought the photo, I haven't checked with the photographer. I'm not sure how that's relevant.
If something isn't reported in the left wing press, it doesn't mean it didn't happen!

I think JC should do something. He was very slow off the mark with the antisemitism row last year and condoning this behaviour (which is what doing nothing is) will not help the Labour party. But I was interested in other opinions on it.

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-17 09:09:20

Nothing to do with the party, Corbyn not in any position to criticise his aide when he was having it off with Diane Abbott whilst still married to the second Mrs Corbyn . And it isn't Corbyns business what his aide gets up to in his private life

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 09:10:58

So proxy sex and half truths are the way to go primrose?

I would rather focus on the actual. Like a year ago Maybot got into power by default. Beating Loathsome the useless who had said she ought to win because she is a mother!!

A year later Maybot has not moved on from her store of about 20 sound bites and has completely run out of ideas. As a result she is begging for the opposition to come up with policies.

"Don't just criticise" says Maybot

Doh! the clue is in the name opposition - come on Maybot time for a re-boot or perhaps to be kind - a complete new circuit.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:13:26

I disagree. JC suspended an MP for sexting. How does that work? Sexting bad, affairs OK?

Anniebach Tue 11-Jul-17 09:15:32

This chap isn't an MP primrose , he is a waster but not an MP

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:16:52

I don't think that just criticising the opposition is enough, personally. Deflection isn't a winning strategy.

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 09:17:50

Nope primrose won't work. Dirt doesn't cut ice unless you are a reader of the gutter press. Try discussing policy - I think that might get you more respect.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:18:25

He was the MP for Rochdale. Good or bad at his job, that's why he was suspended. I personally didn't like him at all, but you can't have one rule for your mates and one for everyone else. Not if you're going to run the country!

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 09:20:46

Policy primrose?

Iam64 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:21:11

If you're referring to Simon Dancsuk Promrose, the sexting was one of a number of extremely inappropriate behaviours. He'd been offered support/therapy via the HofC and had written about his drink problem and attraction to young women. I think the sexting was to a 17 year old he'd met in the course of his work as an MP.

I haven't warmed to Seamus Milne but I see his personal life as his own business, providing it isn't getting in the way of him doing his job, SM isn't an MP. I can't imagine his wife will be indifferent to the photographs in today's papers.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:21:15

Very happy to discuss policy ww!

MaizieD Tue 11-Jul-17 09:38:59

I haven't warmed to Seamus Milne but I see his personal life as his own business, providing it isn't getting in the way of him doing his job,

Absolutely, Iam64.

His only crime is being caught out now instead of having it revealed in memoirs several years after it's ended (that's if anyone thinks he's interesting or significant enough to remember him...).