Brexit negotiations starting tomoorow

OK! Have read Gisela Stewart's speech. Most of it is based on false premises.

1 The UK is not in the Eurozone, never has been and is never likely to be. We will be no more or less affected by changes in the Eurozone (or dollar), whether or not we are in the EU.

2 She lied about the £350m per week.

3 The TTIP agreement between the EU and the US has been abandoned. The NHS is likely to be more influenced by US healthcare and insurance outside the EU.

Frankly, most of that speech is waffle.

Oh where do I start? Leaving the EU means leaving the single market - they are inextricably entwined - it's probably best if I give you this link to Gisela Stuart's speech on leaving the EU - she says it so much better than I could anyway:
www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/gisela_stuart_exposes_the_risks_of_staying_in_the_eu.html
Hope the link works.

So why do you support leaving the single market?

Daphne - I really don't know what people mean by the phrase "hard Brexit" - it just seems to be a sound bite - as is the phrase "soft Brexit".
I said in my post that I support leaving the single market - the reason being that leaving the EU entails leaving the single market - this was clearly spelled out during the referendum campaign. The referendum delivered a leave vote and I believe in the democratic process.

djm Thanks I recognise him now from the Süddeutsche Zeitung. I have sent it to all my friends here and somehow it has so calmed me to read it and see all my worries put down on paper, that I now feel with him watching I now can relax and see what happens to the country of my birth.

Knowing of course that fate meant well with me when I left the UK with my handsome German husband in 1968.

As a matter of interest dbDB77 why do you support "hard Brexit"? I really can't see any benefits - only disadvantages - and need persuading.

EFTA isn't an option at the moment, because the existing EFTA countries don't want the UK.

The rumour is that the UK might be offered an EFTA-style or EEA option, but not until after the German election. I guess it depends whether Merkel or Schulz wins.

Either might be easier for the government or Labour to "sell" to the public, but the UK would still be in a worse position than it is now and wouldn't solve the Ireland and Gibraltar issues.

whitewave - if you mean by "hard Brexit" that we leave the single market then I support it - and I'm not a loon or daft - I just have a different opinion than you. Please don't insult me.
As for the comments about the Queen's hat - I notice that there are only 5 "stars" - perhaps that's HM's opinion of how many member states will be left in the EU after it implodes

A report one year on.

ukandeu.ac.uk/brexit-gives-rise-to-new-political-identities-new-report-one-year-on-from-eu-referendum-finds/

Growth doing really well now. That's really going to help her in her Brexit negotiations.

May off to Brussels today with the knowledge that the electorate was not prepared to strengthen her hand in the Brexit negotiations. The electorate are not therefore convinced of her version of Brexit.

She needs to stop being persuaded by the hard right and listen to the entire spectrum of thought on Brexit, including those who totally rejected Brexit, who are undoubtedly growing in number.

Brussels of course are more than aware of all this with the knowledge that May will almost certainly not be around within the near future.

So looking further ahead. How many loons support a hard Brexit? Would there be enough supporters of a softer Brexit to defeat them?

You'll turn into Julie Andrews you know

It is only going to get more interesting I'm afraid. I wonder if Heseltine could possibly be right? My worry is that they will be glad to get rid of us now.

Well I have to do something to pretend this nightmare isn't happening.

Are you singing whitewave?

?There may be trouble ahead?

inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/scottish-government-threatens-derail-crucial-brexit-bill/

Oh, well. It may not last long.

Calm down. We have to have the boundary changes first, then an election. And don't forget the DUP don't want the boundary changes.

Yippee!!

He could be one of those who loses his seat if the boundaries are changed.

Good -it was excellent.

Why oh why are people like IDS still allowed to tell lies about Brexit?

By the way, the translation has gone viral now.

Margaret, here's the original.

mobile2.derbund.ch/articles/59442e3cab5c3744ba000001

It already has an article in about the Queens Speech and her being dressed in EU blue!

I forgot to mention a while back. I have a friend just retired at a high level in HMRC who apparently are still proceeding as if VAT and Customs union will still be in existence after Brexit.

Odd isn't it?