Brexit negotiations starting tomoorow

May out, Hammond in?

ukandeu.ac.uk/conservative-divisions-on-brexit-the-general-election-and-beyond/

No dj both out, Corbyn in .

Well, yes, obviously, but a step at a time so we don't frighten people off.

I understand they are starting first about the citizens in other countries and also the 'divorce' settlement before discussing anything else. I found that rather odd but last week I went with a friend to see a French divorce lawyer - and interestingly he told her that at the first meeting in court with the judge the divorce would be granted and only after that would things like the disposal of property be decided at future meetings - so maybe Brexit will follow similarly.
Barnier and the Davis will only meet once a week I think - presumably the Civil Servants will be ha,merging out things in the meantime.

I thought Hammond spoke well on the Andrew Marr Show today.

So, not actually negotiating then.

I find Anand Menon very informative about the negotiations.

ukandeu.ac.uk/what-now-for-brexit-in-light-of-the-general-election-results/

I thought they were starting tomorrow but doubt they will get far - they have a morning meeting, lunch together and anothe meeting T end of the day.

Has anyone had any ideas about what could be done about the Northern/Southern Irish border? That may well be an interesting one.

ukandeu.ac.uk/northern-ireland-understanding-the-brexit-vote-and-its-implications-for-the-border/

What else did you expect from Hammond rosesarered?

Hammond is the product of an Essex comprehensive and we churn out good kids.

Hammond possibly can't help being a Conservative (we all have failings) and not understanding Modern Monetary Theory (which is a bit of a problem if you're Chancellor), but he's not quite so toxic as the rest.

Did you notice the slight smile when Marr suggested May would have sacked him, if she'd had a bigger majority?

My money's on Hammond as the next leader of the Conservative Party.

Daphne - what is Modern Monetary Theory?

If the government don't have an agreed position - and especially if the chancellor and PM are at daggers drawn (fact) then where does that leave us ie the British people? And that's before we factor in the DUP position. They want a soft border with Ireland - how on earth can that fit into May's hard Brexit? It simply cannot.

Exactly where we were before, Rigby, in the dark!

dbDB77 I'm about to go to bed, so don't have time to explain MMT fully, but it's basically a theory based on Keynes. Google Ann Pettifor or Steve Keen. Essentially, it debunks Thatcher's idea that a national economy is the same as a household budget and supports state intervention when things go wrong, as they are now.

In other words, austerity has been a waste of time. It's caused misery to those at the bottom of the pile, while making those at the the top even richer. It's evidence based.

From the Mail on Sunday.

That's a surprise.

Rigby 46.Whats your next joke?

The poll from the Mail on Sunday is not a surprise at all. The Mail on Sunday supported the Remain campaign.

The poll was carried out by the polling company which was the most accurate in predicting a hung parliament.

Of course the Mail on Sunday will publish it as it supports their stance but that doesn't make the poll itself in any way 'wrong' or biased.

Seriously? 1005 people?

The endless civil war in the Tory party makes it quite clear that party ideology/ies is far more important than the country's interests. Entitled arrogant MPs don't even see the chaos around them as long as they get their own way. The electorate are just pawns in their boys games. I am fed up, angry and completely disillusioned

Politics was ever thus Nancy unfortunately, and from all the political parties, nobody should kid themselves that it's just the Tories.
There are knives out, in plain sight or hidden up sleeves, and a 'what's in it for me'
Mentality, and jostling for position.Right now both Labour and Conservative Parties are in disarray, disagreement and it's hard to see it ending for quite a while.