Brexit negotiations starting tomoorow

I suspect what everyone in the UK will see as the red line in negotiations is that they will not be prepared to get poorer as a result of the negotiations.

You are right Welshwife, Putin will love it, which is why he pulls so many strings.

I couldn't agree more cinder - checks and balances.

As a EuroPhile I accept that there are many faults with the EU which do need addressing. However the EU is better changed with Britain being part of it.

The world needs a stable EU to counteract both Putin and Trump.

I think Putin will love it.

Must have been a terrible disappointment for Farage when le Pen wasn't elected [thank goodness]. The question is, what do they stand to gain from the break up of the EU? It certainly isn't to benefit the general public, is it?

Does anyone else feel the these are people who want a smaller pool so they can feel like bigger fish?

Cross out a that and it might make sense

There is definately an underswell that of that opinion i think - i keep reading it all over the place

It may just die Welshwife So many strange things have happen recently.

I heard on Radio4 that the House of Lords whose job it is to smooth out new laws before the final vote in the commons, are obliged to support a major political party.

This is not now the case and they are also obliged to repeal a law that could damage the country.
As it now looks as if the Uk will be damaged by a hard Brexit - or even by any form of Brexit,my hope lies with the Lords.
To be honest no one could have imagined such a weak US and a strong pro EU France when Brexit was voted on.
Now would have been a real chance for Britain to prosper in the EU which is its rightful place

Could he not be persuaded to kill it altogether?

Hammond seems to have killed hard Brexit and going for the softest possible Brexit. That is because he is in close contact with business.

Whisper it...it wasn't Thomas who was bricked up...it was Henry...

From the Daily Mail. (1973)

Wonder if this is an appropriate moment to revisit this?
(There hasn't' been a lot to smile at recently)

"Zut alors!"said Thomas,"those French lessons were a bit of a waste of time then!"

That was the letter from the political editor in the i today.
"You can be appalled, inspired, excited or depressed by the state of British politics, but it's impossible to be bored by it."

Thanks Maizie how dare she? I'm speechless.

We certainly can't complain that public/political life has been boring over the past couple of months!

I expect to see her book available fron the Book People for two euros by the end of next week. Love the several references in the article to "German born Mrs Stuart"

Thanks Maizie how dare she? I'm speechless.

Hope nobody buys her book.

It's here, Rigby:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-referendum-vacuous-gisela-stuart-leading-leave-campaigner-abuse-democratic-process-comments-a7803631.html

Leading Brexit campaigner says 'vacuous' referendum should never have been called

The worms are really crawling out of the woodwork now, aren't they?

Tegan I missed that about GS - of course I believe you but where did she say it?

I don't know how she or Cameron can live with themselves with the havoc they have wreaked on this country....

Does that mean she wants her job back?
More likely that she was just playing games.