London Fire -2

No, Ana. For heavens' sake, I make enough spelling mistakes myself. However, it's also disrespectful to spell somebody's name wrongly consistently, especially when a poster seems bitter and twisted with hatred and the misspelling appears to be deliberate.

I didn't correct her spelling. Just asked what she meant. Being helpful.
There is a big difference between boarders and borders, and surely someone who is so concerned should get the correct one. Otherwise all sorts of misunderstandings could ensue.

maybe that poster saw a dumber and dumber post in an oh so offensive jovial manner and that poster decided if you can't beat them sometimes join them. therefore another bit of satire has been born on the threads.

My post wasn't addressed to you daphnedill, I don't know why you're getting your knickers in a twist about it...

daff and durr

Misunderstandings ensue even when the spellings are correct on GN.

Bitter and twisted ? Oh deary me, brownie points will be forwarded perhaps.

Daphne - a rose by any other name etc

Firstly, I would like to correct something. All the cladding tested is not the same as that used on Grenfell Towers. It is any cladding tested so far has failed the combustabilty test.

Secondly, I don't recall anybody on any thread on the subject of the tradgey saying K&C chose cheaper cladding to help the wealthy.

What are you on about anniebach?

I'm not getting my knickers in a twist about anything ana.

Tbf Wilma at this point we don't know why any of it was chosen or why.

SAAK you really take the biscuit by saying the elephant in the room is to do with illegal immigrants. Are you seriously saying nobody else has mentioned this? Do you really believe you're the only person to be thinking about the number of immigrants in the building. Does the fact the government has now stated several times, the immigration status of those were in the building who come forward will not be investigated? Is that what is the most important aspect of this tragedy is to you?

Also, the link given 18.49 at by dj that you appeared to dismiss is about the changes in the provision of social housing since the 70s. Only you could disregard what is being said a cross all parties right now about the state of social housing. No, the government did not directly cause the tragedy. But you would have to be pretty bloody minded not to find a link what happened to subsequent governments - red and blue - to the state of social housing provision in this country in 2017. It's nothing to do with world economics.

One thing you are right about. This is about personal greed, well partly. It's about councils awarding contracts to the lowest bidder, but not getting value for money. I wonder who makes money when that happens? It's not the councils that's for sure.

I am so angry right now.

Yep! Bitter and twisted. It's only possible to judge the words which are actually written and I'm being honest about my impression.

Take a step back and look in a mirror!

Wilma Don't be angry! Saak is a dolly and knows exactly what she's doing.

roses even I wouldn't say the cheaper cladding was chosen to help the wealthy. I will grovel on my hands and knees if it turns out that was the reason.

A tragedy that became political. Hmmm let me think about greedy subcontractors and councils no matter what or who is in government do the same. Let me think about mad Corbyn shouting about numbers of deaths. Hmm. Deaths can never be recorded properly due to subletting and illegal people in these places. This is the fact. A very sad one.

You are missing the point. It is not the only fact. Of course it became political, everything is political.

Islington has been named as having the cladding, oh dear , Corbyn and Thorbury ground

And did you miss the parts of my post that said all parties and red or blue?

I swear it's like you went straight to the end of this thread without reading what has already been discussed just so you can share your twisted pearls of wisdom.

Wilma
The question is surely , was the cladding chosen because it was cheaper( but they still thought it was ok) or for the looks of it, don't forget it seems that all cladding tested so far from any tower block is combustible.The next question is why were there no firebreaks in the cladding?A further question is ...is any cladding anywhere on public buildings the right kind, and can even the right kind be combustible given the conditions? In fact there are loads of questions that need to be answered.

Annie what is your point?

Sorry roses I see what you mean. You mean helping the wealthy by making the building look better. I read that in a different way. I need to cool off.

As an aside, I actually think the cladding on the Camden blocks looks very smart.

It is as obvious as a naked hang glider that now the stories are coming out about the many other Councils such as Camden, Islington, Liverpool, Birmingham the voices that called for heads to roll have suddenly gone silent. Suddenly gone camera shy, perhaps it's the week end and they are off to more important duties than their own constituencies, perhaps a festival.

Mind you if and when they do resurface they will no doubt be congratulating themselves for a job well done.

There was/is a politicisation of a human tragedy and those who have crowed the loudest are now finding themselves in similar circumstances, MP's included.

Why are the questions being asked a week ago not being asked of other councils ?