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Why difference in views between young and old ?

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varian Sun 25-Jun-17 12:17:59

All old people did not vote Tory. I'm old and I voted LibDem, but our age group contains a higher proportion of Tory voters than younger age groups.

starbird Sun 25-Jun-17 12:17:16

It is not straightforward.

Although a pensioner I was happy to accept an upper limit on care costs (although to be honest it would not have affected me much as my house, being my only asser, is worth only £120,000). I would like to have seen a reduction in Uni fees, the dropping of many of the modern less academic subjects, but more shorter or on job, work related training courses.

If we have anything other than a hard Brexit it will all have been in vain. Yes protect the rights of those settled here, make arrangements for agricultural seasonal workers, but otherwise the idea was to reduce immigration to those with soecial skills and also an agreed number of refugees. At the same time education and training must be geared to practical living, work and parenting. No one under 25 or who has never worked, or has come here from abroad, other than as a genuine refugee, and assuming they are fit, should receive money for doing nothing.

There should be encouragement to build cheap innovative housing. Also more smaller but independent units for older people and single people of all ages.

People should be taught to be more responsible for themselves and families - why provide free school meals when there is a generous child allowance?

An all party task force needs to look to the future to see how people can work shorter hours, (due to AI and other changes) perhaps being obliged to give a certain number of hours to their community in some way, in some cases perhaps replacing jobs which have suffered cuts.

Of course young people voted for Corbyn - promising the earth but no practical means to pay for it, that is how most people live today - buying luxuries on credt. The older generation, who are not all richer than their children, grew up with a different outlook - save before you buy.

As always both sides have some good ideas and good people, it is time we dirched party politics and voted in men and women with ability, intelligence, common sense and life experience, but most of all integrity. Make a certain number of hours attendance in parliament obligatory - the empty seats during debates are shameful, and slash the number in the Lords in half to serve a fixed term - say three years, with new appointees reduced such that they only replace those leaving, rather than adding to the number.

I hope That gives you something to think about!

Alima Sun 25-Jun-17 12:16:03

Has anyone assumed that?

Elegran Sun 25-Jun-17 12:12:45

Why assume that all old people voted for a Tory government? Even that those who didn't vote as you (presumably) did must have voted Tory?

And where do you draw a line between young people and old people? Is there a magic cut-off point where everyone's opinions change overnight?

varian Sun 25-Jun-17 11:57:27

Old people read newspapers and most papers have a right wing pro-brexit bias whereas young people now get their news and views from other sources.

Alima Sun 25-Jun-17 11:56:08

Maybe more younger people believe in la la land?

paddyann Sun 25-Jun-17 11:48:10

I've never voted tory ,never will and I'm delighted the young people "down south" have caught up with their counterparts in Scotland and become politically aware...after all its their future they're voting for .

James2451 Sun 25-Jun-17 11:43:56

Young people told the Nation that they did not want a Tory Party elected that would continue with protecting the 10% of top earners , yet would still continue with more cruel cuts hitting the poor, vulnerable and disabled. Young people do not want a hard Brexit, no more Grammar Schools, no Fox Hunting, they want more Social Housing, free University places, no cuts on benefits and pensions. Etc, etc, etc.

Presumably, those who voted Conservative agree with the Tories policies of austerity and protecting the rich whilst poverty grows.
Is that a factual statement? What policies did they really expect and vote for in electing a Tory Government?