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Corbyn and the Monarchy and Armed Forces.

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Luckylegs9 Sun 25-Jun-17 13:29:00

Corbyn has made it quite clear, what he and his close followers feel about our Queen and Armed Forces, do can those that support him eventually want a country with a President and no Armed Forces? This is how it looks. Why hadn't he the guts to just come out with it?

rosesarered Mon 26-Jun-17 14:50:14

Not at all Rigby as I didn't say there should be no emotional pleas or poetry.
I may not read it though!

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 14:45:54

Well well well rar now you're the thread police now are you?

rosesarered Mon 26-Jun-17 14:40:26

Are we just going to make emotional pleas and copy out poetry now?
1967 is a long time ago, and tbh it wasn't a Summer of love for me and for many others, it was an American import as a result of a backlash against the never ending and hopeless war in Vietnam.
We all want some hope and positivity in political life but it doesn't suit everyone to go down the hard left path.

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 14:05:32

Emily Dickinson Poem I love. Seems appropriate somehow.

Hope' is the thing with feathers—
That perches in the soul—
And sings the tune without the words—
And never stops—at all—

And sweetest—in the Gale—is heard—
And sore must be the storm—
That could abash the little Bird
That kept so many warm—

I've heard it in the chillest land—
And on the strangest Sea—
Yet, never, in Extremity,
It asked a crumb—of Me.

Anniebach Mon 26-Jun-17 14:03:16

Yes 1967 I was outside the American Embassy protesting against the Vietnam war, and not only 1967

yggdrasil Mon 26-Jun-17 13:56:54

1967 was in the middle of the Vietnam war. The one our Labour government kept us out of despite what the USA wanted. :-)

devongirl Mon 26-Jun-17 13:55:52

Still Jalima, even if they're all going to become cynical like us oldies, let them have some optimism!

Jalima1108 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:53:26

^ Can't the gloomy Nellies on here remeber how the summer of love (1967) felt?^

Yes, but gloomy, or realistic having lost the rose-tinted spectacles we had in those days despite the Cold War.

The rose-tinted specs did make an appearance again in 1989 thanks to Reagan, Thatcher and Gorbachev.

However, just looking at the belligerence even on here will show anyone that world peace is an unattainable dream.
sad

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 13:48:29

Thanks GGMK2 when I posted it I wanted to be hopeful and uplifting. I do believe in peace and understanding. I do think we managed to change some things in the 60s and if I could give something to this and future generations it is the belief that things can change and any step however small is better than sticking in the mud and mire.

Jalima1108 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:46:13

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

Isaiah 2:4

Peace and love, man, and a few spliffs to go with it
Chill

Anniebach Mon 26-Jun-17 13:45:23

Thank you Jane, first time I have been called a parasite

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:41:07

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

Just had to repeat your post trisher. I enjoyed its hope so much.

Jalima1108 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:40:21

They also celebrate Anzac Day, which I've never understood, because Gallipoli was disaster.
I'm a bit shocked by that statement daphnedill because Australia and New Zealand do not celebrate Anzac Day - it is a remembrance service held on 25th April each year just as we hold Remembrance services here on 11th November and on the nearest Sunday to that each year.

Certainly not a celebration, and the Australians get up before dawn to travel miles to get to their dawn services.

I think to say they celebrate is to do them a grave disservice bearing in mind the thousands who died.

Services are also held in some places in the UK to remember Gallipoli where British servicemen lost their lives too.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:38:03

Jun-17 08:55:10 What a lot of tosh!

Jalima1108 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:34:37

can someone tell me when Armed Forces day started,It wasn't around when I was young
someone may have answered this already but I think Armed Forces Day was started by Tony Blair. He also donated millions from his memoirs to the Royal British Legion.

Salving his conscience?

Jane10 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:23:21

Anniebach is no "bot"! She's very real and with very real opinions beyond the politics threads too.

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 11:39:47

Composing = complaining

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 11:39:12

Oh goodness - I've just been composing on another thread about posts just consisting of emoticons ????????????????????

devongirl Mon 26-Jun-17 11:38:32

trisher absolutely - my DD is one of the many who have become energised by JC and is now politically engaged, may there be many more (irrespective of political persuasion). Can't the gloomy Nellies on here remeber how the summer of love (1967) felt?

Eloethan Mon 26-Jun-17 11:18:35

trisher smile

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 11:08:45

tris????????????

trisher Mon 26-Jun-17 10:52:24

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 10:24:54

devon correct

devongirl Mon 26-Jun-17 10:20:27

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norose4 Mon 26-Jun-17 10:08:02

Thank you Yggdrasil, you put that so well I totally agree, I question everything thing I read & hear , it is very hard to track down actual facts even more so with the wide access to forms of media , you have to work really hard to get to the bottom of things ( even when looking back through history) unfortunately head line grabbing news makes for easily reached opinions . I will try what you have suggested .?