Cliff Edge anyone?

Do you mean the Eurotom plans or all of them WW ?

I thought that the plans were not going to be good enough for the EU to trade with us?

I was surprised how low that was.
I think they mean direct jobs. There are a lot of indirect jobs relying on them in the car industry in particular.

Here's another reason to be worried about Brexit.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/10/brexit-pm-making-plans-to-replicate-membership-of-atomic-energy-group-euratom

Well that is interestingJen - it looks to me as if they are saying to continue with the manufacture and trade as now they need nothing to change and have the free movement of people to fulfill any positions they have. There are lots of skill shortages in the automotive industry - DS works in the industry and gets several approaches every week from other companies - several of the Japanese ones too. He is in USA and has no interest in moving as the children are still in Education and by the time the youngest is finished he will not be far off retiring!

Will be interesting to see if that document has any effect but in the end 440 00 jobs is not that vast in the scale of numbers in the whole EU - although a very useful amount of employment - and certainly a proportion in UK not to be sneezed at!

This is what I have been reading, Welshwife.

www.mofa.go.jp/files/000185466.pdf

Have they actually got a trade agreement with the EU now? The original reason for building the factories in UK was the access to the EU.

Will be interesting if they don't get an agreement signed - what would be the position of the U.K. Factories?

They seem to be assuming that their companies who at present supply440k jobs if i am remembering correctly will move to the EU if the single market goes

With a very long list of what they want, too, from both the EU and the UK.
Very clever of them, in fact.

Yes there is reems of it. They are very critical of the UK government.

The letter I saw was 15 pages long, whitewave. Very detailed.

A lot of Japanese cars built in the UK. Japanese banks are moving to mainland EU.

Letter recieved from Japanese Foreign Affairs Minister over Brexit

Blimey!! The Japanese obviously think we are barking

The EU proposals have been on the table for some time - so in fact she knew about them when she started saying - as long as the EU reciprocates - all a load of rubbish really as obviously she did not want to match their proposals.

So Guy Verhofstadt has said that until EU immigrants in the EU are sure of the same conditions as those U.K. Migrants will enjoy in EU countries, then MEPs will not vote for Mays proposition.

That sounds fair.

KPMG has been looking at the cost of Brexit, if there is a cliff edge break.

"Shoppers could be forgiven for over-looking the significant impact customs will have on prices they pay at the till"

Food prices will rise significantly.

Who will suffer most?

The poor of course and unfortunately those who voted Brexit.

PS. I know somebody living in Uttlesford who is called Quintus (he was the fifth child).

Jalima Uttlesford is very English, although we do have some non-English people here (mainly Scots, but we're quite tolerant and welcoming). We only have four towns (no cities), hardly any industry, lots of fields and trees, plenty of cricket teams and pubs with warm beer (mainly rip off gastro-pubs now). Apparently we're amongst the longest living and least obese districts in the country. It's a shame we don't have a police station or a hospital and our schools are creaking at the seams and the roads can't cope with the incomers. We do have Stansted Airport, so it's quite easy to escape if it gets too much.

PS. Just Googled Rees Mogg's company, Somerset Capital Management. It describes itself as a specialist Global Emerging Markets investment management firm.

Oh the irony! I expect others remember the trolls bleating on about extreme globalism. One of the most high-profile Brexiters stands to make a lot of money from real globalisation, not just working togethe with European "globalists".

I actually think that gives Rees-Mogg a valid reason for Brexit. Of the two people I knew who intended to vote Leave, one was in a similar situation and what he said made sense, although he's softened his position a bit now, because he can see the effect it's having on the economy and real people.

Sorry - I digress, I do like unusual names and that includes Uttlesford and Sixtus!

Udel's Ford - who was Udel?

Uttlesford - that sounds so very English.

Where else could there be somewhere called Uttlesford
Surely nowhere else?

Rees-Mogg is likely to make money from Brexit, because there's renewed interest in emerging economies in Africa and South America.

There was a call a few months ago for Uttlesford District Council (in North West Essex) to transfer itself from Essex and move to Cambridgeshire. We're fed up of the pen pushers in Chelmsford forgetting we exist and South Cambridgeshire is more similar than most of Essex. Cambridge is nearer for most of us anyway.

And now we could have Hexit.
Havering council are voting on Wednesday to take back control from City Hall.
They claim that the Greater London council is acting like a mini eu. Love it. O

This thread is about remaining * petra* are you on the right thread?

jalima I take your point of course, but RM is in a very good position to make a huge amount of money from the market with the volatility that will be Brexit if it ever comes off.