A look at Momentum

Did you not read the link from the guardian I posted Whitewave ? Perhaps you chose not to because you consider the guardian to be gutter press

It is obvious that some will cling on to whatever tainted view they've arrived at, I assume from reading/watching mainstream media, despite their lack of knowledge. I'm sure there may be professionals who are Communists etc but given that these are usually strongly held views, they are highly unlikely to join Momentum which is solely about supporting the Labour Party.

You believe communists will not join the Labour Party? One of Corbyns closest advisors left the communist party to join the Labour Party so he could work for Corbyn.

primrose do you want to debate about momentum or whether and how much I knew about momentum before starting this thread?

What I said in my reply was entirely true. You can if you wish refuse to believe me, but I see that as entirely your oroblem and not mine.

It's disappointing ww, that's all.

Either you feel the need to berate people on forums about stuff you don't care about and know nothing about (unlikely), or you feel the need to lie about stuff in order to create a fake debate (more probable).
Denying it just really puts me off, which is a shame as you've probably got some interesting ideas.
I'd love to debate about Momentum, but not with someone who can't be honest.

I am not a Momentum but a LP member and your experience matches mine bmacca. The Momentum members that I have met are not extremists or troublemakers, but are very keen and have reinvigorated our local LP working extremely hard during the recent election which resulted in a much better result than expected. Many are professional people who over the years, had become disenchanted and as the OP indicated, felt that until recently their views were not being represented. The stereotype of the communist hard left fits with the agenda of some, but is not born out in my personal experience.

Primrose how dare you call ww dishonest and a liar? FFS

And I bet you could really debate meaningfully about Momentum - not

I've reported the post rig

I have been advised by HQ that the post calling me a liar does not break the guidlines. Which I find somewhat surprising

However as I advised primrose whether she believes me or not is her problem. I am entirely relaxed about her inability to raise her debating skills much above the primary level.

So are you still saying I lied

Where did I say that?

I'm not playing games * primrose* you either have the integrity to discuss your comment or you don't

I want to make sure we're both discussing the same thing. I've made a lot of comments.
Just cut and paste the post you're talking about for clarity.

Still playing games? As hq spoke to you you know exactly which one.

Which post?

OK forget it. You are without integrity.

So, a discursive speculation by Primrose is beyond the pale but telling her she is without integrity isn't?

Some one without integrity tells lies. I don't see the difference between the two positions.

I'd call that quits.

Time to move on IMHO.

What other option do I have as she won't discuss the issue in an open and adult manner?

Happy to discuss.

Here, Primrose. It's only a few posts up from these so I don't know how you missed it (and you wrote it)

^Either you feel the need to berate people on forums about stuff you don't care about and know nothing about (unlikely), or you feel the need to lie about stuff in order to create a fake debate (more probable).
Denying it just really puts me off, which is a shame as you've probably got some interesting ideas.
I'd love to debate about Momentum, but not with someone who can't be honest.^