Should MP be sacked for using " n "word

Just to be clear, I'm criticising what I see as a judgmental and labellist attitude that's right in front of me, not defending the two people mentioned about whom I know absolutely zilch.

Maybe they don't think it was racist (see my previous comment about possible other interpretations). Maybe they just feel sorry for Morris who clearly made a stupid mistake in the heat of the moment, a mistake for which she has sincerely apologised.

I don't think it's fair to condemn people as racist for saying nothing about something one considers racist. Such a stance is making all sorts of unfounded assumptions. That stance also looks like a kind of demand that people align themselves as 'goodies' and 'baddies': make the virtue signal or be damned, a prevalent attitude that I think primitive and tribal. Nuanced and undecided opinions don't seem to be allowed. That seems like a very witch-huntish and mob judgment kind of approach to me.

The term 'racist' is thrown around far too easily nowadays.

Bill Cash and John Redwood - both very right wing, both silent on use of racist language in front of them ..... hummmm

I remember, in the 1960s, hearing an older lady describe the colour of her bedspread as "nigger brown". I don't think she was a racist, but it made me feel uncomfortable even then.

She also, whenever she mentioned a girl I knew, always described her as "that little Jewish girl". I think this was a reflection of attitudes she grew up with in the 1920s, but thank goodness times have changed.

I do find it surprising that a woman of only 60 would use such an outdated and unacceptable phrase.

I suspect that only fairly racist people would have used the word "nigger" even a long time ago. Whilst I think it's unlikely that very elderly people would use the word on its own to describe a black person, I think it is possible they might use the phrase because in the "old days" it was not understood to be extremely offensive and was quite commonly used.

Maybe she should be sacked but, if so, what should happen to the other MPs who apparently made not even a muttered protest when she used the phrase?

What Penstemmon said.

That made me laugh Jalima , I would love to have seen your face , sorry I mean Sin yer faze lol ?

What she said is totally unacceptable to the vast majority of the electorate. My point is that any MP who is so completely out of touch with the views and principles of the electorate should not be representing us.

If a headteacher had used the word in that context who would support them? As an MP she is a public figure with some level of responsibility to set citizenship examples as well as a representative of her political party. Using racist language is either deliberate or ignorant. Either way it is a poor reflection on her and the party she represents. The party will want to disassociate from her comment.

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whitewave

Labour accused itself of Anti Semitism!
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As for the MP she was a fool and rightly has apologised.

As for getting the sack I think there are a few who should be in front of her in the queue.

Perhaps the first time she has slipped up in public MaizieD - reading about her, she seems hardworking and enthusiastic and keen to do her best for her area.
Perhaps she let her public mask slip this time.
Daft woman.

You see what I mean, though, about it being a slur on the good people of Newton Abbott.

Yes, quite shocking when you first move there, norose, when the man in the garage calls you 'me lover'

'I have never met you in my life before'

That is a slur on the constituents of Newton Abbott or have I missed something somewhere MaizieD

Sorry, Jalima, but they voted for her. I would be very surprised if this was the first time she'd used inappropriate language..

Sorry I meant Maizie.

Maize that's the point I was making. How can anyone from her generation (and mine) even speak the word in any context? To use the word means it's in her vocabulary. I can't understand her mind set and I wouldn't want someone like that as my MP.

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If it twernt for the bridge ,twold b a hole lot wurst ??

Sounds more Cornish than Devonshire * norose*??

Yes I think she should be reprimanded., She does not deserve to be an MP , not sure if I'm more shocked that she doesn't have the brain or knowledge to know it is inappropriate language or that she does know it is inappropriate, offensive , & outdated but said it anyway. It is obviously part of her vocabulary or else it wouldn't have come to mind to say it. She is not representative of us down yer in Devon where many people greet each other with a happy ' morning me lover, how be e' & for those who have never been to Devon the last phrase is not literal ?

Another example of casual contempt for people's feelings, I think...

I think it is casual contempt for anyone outside the London bubble.

Clearly the voters of Newton Abbott aren't bothered about her racist tendencies
That is a slur on the constituents of Newton Abbott or have I missed something somewhere MaizieD

Saying that you disagree/don't share the views of someone who makes a dubious remark does not make you racist but the contrary I would have thought

Jalima

I cannot possibly believe that a woman of her age is ignorant of the fact that nigger is a completely unacceptable word for public use (and has been for many years). I wouldn't want much to do with anyone who used it in private, either..

As for the metaphor she was using there are plenty of other ways she could have described the concept she was trying to get across.

I agree with you about the journalist. He only had to google it, for heaven's sake! The comment was deliberately used for effect. Another example of casual contempt for people's feelings, I think...

This is not the sort of person you want as an MP.

Clearly the voters of Newton Abbott aren't bothered about her racist tendencies.

As someone tweeted:

"The entire country is looking at Newton Abbott with horror because of Ann Marie Morris's bloody ignorance."

So the entire country minus a few whitewave