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Should MP be sacked for using " n "word

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suzied Mon 10-Jul-17 16:50:59

Tory MP Anne-Marie Morris used the phrase "N . In the woodpile" when giving a speech in a meeting in the House of Commons. There are calls for her to be sacked. This is a phrase that even my parents wouldn't have used. I am surprised anyone under 60 knows it. Does she use this phrase at home? She should be severely reprimanded IMHO. Sacked if it happens again .

Welshwife Mon 10-Jul-17 22:02:11

That word she used was the normal adjective for the dark brown colour when I was a child!

mcem Mon 10-Jul-17 21:19:52

Come on petra! Totally unacceptable in any context.
It was once acceptable to refer to poofs and pansies, to blackies and darkies!
Would you consider all of these highly offensive terms acceptable if quoting a historical context?

Rigby46 Mon 10-Jul-17 21:09:46

Original context or not still not OK

petra Mon 10-Jul-17 21:03:08

I haven't heard the whole speech, but perhaps she was using the term in its original context.
^ Some fact of considerable importance that is not disclosed - something suspicious or wrong^

rosesarered Mon 10-Jul-17 21:01:54

nfkdumpling .....you are completely right, it doesn't matter what the politics of the MP are, it should not have been said at all.A very old fashioned phrase which I have read but never heard anybody say, even when people did say casually racist things back then.
ww am glad you remember the awful thread when many left wing posters derided the Jewish posters ( only two of them ) and denied that there was any anti-semitism at all in the Labour Party.Well, you were proved wrong there!

Christinefrance Mon 10-Jul-17 20:54:12

I was surprised too Deeda, its quite an old saying. I didn't think it was still in general usage. Not sure what that says about Anne-Marie Morris.

Deedaa Mon 10-Jul-17 20:33:59

suzied was surely referring to the expression, not the word. I was surprised to find how many people had never heard it before. When I was a child it was quite commo9n, I certainly heard my father use it

petra Mon 10-Jul-17 20:19:26

*suzied
i'm surprised any one under 60 knows it
Have you ever listened to any Gangster Rap music. It's a word that's frequently used.

Imperfect27 Mon 10-Jul-17 19:31:26

To answer the original question ... Yes.

Ana Mon 10-Jul-17 18:33:41

Eh? Didn't think I would what? You're making no sense, whitewave...

whitewave Mon 10-Jul-17 18:24:50

No i didnt think you would

Ana Mon 10-Jul-17 18:23:15

Who?

whitewave Mon 10-Jul-17 18:22:03

Are you denying they said what they said ana?

Ana Mon 10-Jul-17 18:18:17

So were the vehement denials from the Labourites on here!

whitewave Mon 10-Jul-17 18:16:53

I m for one minute sufgesting that this should run and run in fact it is so distastfull i hope it doesnt.

But it wasnt long ago that Labour was accused of anti-semitism and the shock, horror and end of the world stuff emanating from the Tories on here was major stuff.

kittylester Mon 10-Jul-17 18:12:23

Here we go again.

NfkDumpling Mon 10-Jul-17 17:50:17

Perhaps. I'm not so sure. I've always found bigotry pops up in many guises across society. But this, as you say, is purely careless inconsiderate talk. She should have known better. And as you said before, she needs to go on a course.

Rigby46 Mon 10-Jul-17 17:37:42

Well I have friends across all parties and none of them would use that word ever. I'm not saying only a Tory MP would use that word but that a Tory is more likely to use that word - right wing people are not, as a group, so sensitive about the use of language. Note I'm not saying all but talking about tendencies.

NfkDumpling Mon 10-Jul-17 17:30:24

Why? Being an MP is relevant. The implication is that only Tories would say such things. I have labour friends and certainly they're no better.

Rigby46 Mon 10-Jul-17 17:28:09

And yes, people who are right wing are more likely to not appreciate the importance of language and people who are right wing are more likely to be Tory.Ergo....

Rigby46 Mon 10-Jul-17 17:26:47

Well she is a Tory so it's a relevant fact.

whitewave Mon 10-Jul-17 17:26:47

Well she was suspended. Name of Rosemary Caroll - Mayor ( not mp)

The post shared by her compared Asian benefit claimants to dogs.

Which are " brown , stinks and never worked a day in his life"

Rigby46 Mon 10-Jul-17 17:25:28

She's apologised -bless! Nothing will be done I'll bet! R4 is saying whip will be removed - let's see. Totally cynical that it's really being taken seriously

NfkDumpling Mon 10-Jul-17 17:23:10

What does her being a Tory have to do with it? It would be equally deplorable if any other party MP had said it. Or are you saying that only a Conservative would possibly do such a thing?

NfkDumpling Mon 10-Jul-17 17:20:04

If it was a speech it must have been preprepared so she should at least grovel and crawl on her stomach the length of the Commons in abject apology. Silly, silly person. What was she thinking? No one, but no one uses the N word - unless a person of colour.