Should MP be sacked for using " n "word

oh, so that's acceptable then

how strange but then that doesn't surprise me in the slightest

How ridiculous. "Lynching" isn't a word that is only connected to the murder of black slaves. If you look at Wikipedia you will see that there are many theories as to how the term "lynch" originated - and many examples of lynchings occurring throughout the world.

These comments are unacceptable and it is also unacceptable to use the word 'lynching' in reference to an MP. Lynching is associated with white supremacists in America murdering black people - hanging without trial.
But apparently Sometimes you need to express honest anger.

So if she is sacked for using an unacceptable word associated with black people, then McDonnell should be sacked for using an unacceptable word associated with black people too.

Both need to understand the error of their ways - and not just pay lip service with a mealy-mouthed apology.

Anyone who thinks these racist comments are just ' mild ' and if they just think she needs a finger wagging and if they think that awful man shouldn't be improsioned for death threats and if they are fed up with hearing about it then go and read a book it needs talking about it needs uncovering it needs advertising to the highest degree it s been buzzing away for so blooming long and just shows with all the laws and all the equal rights work been done over the last 20 years its all just bubbling away under the surface and some haven't moved on at all
As for the poster who thinks it's the equivalent of calling us Brits obviously they have no idea of the history, the background It is scary that people can be so casual and so ignorant and so blind to it all
And it needs discussing as much as impossible whilst it's still happening

Thanks that's me planning then I love planning holidays.

Ahh, Liverpool - you'll know about the rivalry between their two main footi teams and ours.
I love Liverpool. It's a beautiful city, vibrant and full of history. There is so much to see. The Tate and the Beatkes stuff on the same site, along with the museum commemorating the city's links with slavery. It's an hour and a half drive from town (Manchester). Yes, do a north west jolly, fit in our cities and the Lakes.

Yes have been given it some serious consideration to incorporate it into a Lake District visit some time next year.

I also fancy having a look at Liverpool as well.

Manchester is a glory whitewave. Fantastic history, a wonderful town hall and it's small enough to walk. We have great museums and art galleries, the guided walks are usually an absolute joy. Great variety of food outlets and we always look on the bright side ?

Oh Peterloo! That brings back history lessons at school. Never been to Manchester but I do fancy it.

Thanks TriciaF. I'm not Jewish but have a number of close friends who are. I joined one of the guided walks in Manchester to mark the Peterloo massacre. It was, as these things are, interesting and always great to walk our city when discussing its history. The radical beginnings of the Manchester Guardian were discussed. I left the walk when another participant began to call one of the Guardians current feature writers a 'Zionist'. That description was supported by the Guide. Manchester has a vibrant jewish community, who have contributed hugely to our city since they first arrived, seeking safety from pogroms in Eastern Europe, or later from Nazi Germany.
I agree with you that our black neighbours have suffered terrible oppression. Their skin colour identifies them, whereas it's more possible to hide your Jewish heritage.

I`m with you Roses.

Ooohhhhh rar now who's had a nerve touched? I was talking about GM now by the way but clearly you haven't kept up.

I'm unsure about this. As a Jew (converted) I've experienced antisemitism a few times - eg teenagers shouting out "Jews" from across the street. And another time when some children said "don't speak to her, she's a Jew." Which we are.
Some Jews don't like to be called "ikey" (from Isaac.)
But I think black people have had an even harder time than Jews when it come to persecution. So I think we have to be even more sensitive to their feelings.

Oh give it up Rigby there has been no tolerance on GN for the phrase ,from the great majority of posters on here.
Some posters do not think it's a sacking case ( me included) but think she has learned a lesson.
Real racism is nothing like that ( not to say that she shouldn't have used that phrase ) ........time to move on?

Well the 'well bred' aristo has been given 12 weeks - there'll be plenty of apologists for him on social media

Gina Miller wrote a good article

She begins by talking about her experiences especially after she brought a legal challenge against the government.

We all know what Phillips said and it isn't worth repeating here.

But because the threats were made on social media Phillips received a lesser sentence.

What Miller says that what we must do is look beyond the the medium, and only consider the content of the message, if the message is motivated by racism, bigotry and contravene existing laws against inciting sexual or racial hatred or violence, the perpetrator should face charges appropriate to their crime.

I agree.

I heard Andy Murray challenge casual sexism when a reporter commented that AM was the first tennis player to ...

aM responded that he was the first male tennis player to ... last year he was congratulated on being the first tennis player to achieve x, he said, I'm the first male player, but Venus Williams has done this more than once.
It's the casual nature of sexist or racist remarks that's so dispiriting. That, and the inevitable accusations of over sensitivity or PAC gone mad to those who challenge.

And that's exactly why I've found some of the comments on this thread so profoundly depressing , making light of the original topic being discussed. And, how the experiences of DA make the racist comment by another female MP all the worse. It's simply not enough to say oh it was awful but she said sorry or get over it or move on or strengthen up. A real eye opener about how tolerant some GNers are about racist comments and how we should react to them.

I caught some of channel 4 news this evening. The vile abuse that MPs from both main parties are subjected to is profoundly depressing. Women are the main targets, no surprise there. Black, Muslim and Jewish women are of course, even more likely to be abused or threatened.
The vile, racist and mysoginistc abuse directed at Diane Abbott throughout her political career is beyond belief.
I suppose there will be some who accuse DA of 'playing the race card'. Anything to avoid acknowledging the importance of language.

www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/jul/12/diane-abbotts-powerful-speech-describing-mindless-online-abuse-video

See if this works

Have you seen speech from DA ( can't do a link) saying that she has had racist abuse from first becoming an MP - still maybe she should just 'strengthen up'. I'll try and do the link

Actually the 90odd year olds are probably their grans.

Depressing and shocking Rigby

And yes I agree about the mumsnetters. They can be a feisty lot but at least they seem to have sound values. Which they obviously get from their non-racist 90odd year old mums

So nothing to do with age actually.

This week we have had a meeting by MPs talking about the abuse in the form of racial, misogynistic and worse throughout the recent election campaign and before. It seems that the referendum, released and "allowed" the type of language we mistakenly had thought was gone for good. Social media is full of it.

So it seems to me that we must be extra vigilant to protect those at whom this language is directed, and simply refuse to accept it in any form and from whom it eminates.
Apologists for this sort of behaviour are in my view entirely misguided.

Thanks for that nightowl I've been following it on MN as well - it is heartening isn't it that there is hope for the future with the next generation. Some of the contributions on this thread have been profoundly depressing.