How much will a flight cost after Brexit?

My son in law manages an Audi dealership, so obviously if it goes tits he's in trouble. Only 6 months ago he moved to a bigger house which meant a much much bigger mortgage. He's not someone who takes on big mortgages lightly.
So I'm assuming that so far everything looks as if it's going to be ok.

At the moment citizens of countries from outside the EU Schengen area do need to get a visa - they need to apply at the Embassy of the country they wish to travel to - they are only valid in the one country. The visas for France are about £30 per person - know two people who have needed these - a Thai lady and a Zimbabwean man travelling with his UK girlfriend.

Day6
Spot on!! It's boring, that's until it sometimes gets laughable. We had a poster a few days ago who said she was physically sick at her guild meeting!!
We have no end of posters crying, and now the piece de resistance, a no fly zone over the uk bloody hilarious

Maddyone
Oh how true Re visas. It's the only time now that I feel as if I'm actually 'travelling'
Travelling to the eu now is no different to getting a train to a destination in the uk.
I feel the same when we are driving round Europe. Pre schengen when you had to stop at every border and show your passports at least you felt as if you were going somewhere, now it's boring, just motorway after motorway until you see the sign to say you are now entering xyz. Other than that you would never know.
But that's what 'they' wanted, wasn't it.

The U.K. Has far more to lose than the EU and they are all prepared to accept a small percentage of trade loss - the UK appears ready to accept a40+% loss of trade or agree to high import/export tariffs.

The airlines which move their HQ to within the EU will be still able to have flights within the EU - there are a surprising number of flights that both Ryanair and Easy jet do between EU countries which do not include UK.

They do NOT wish to stop the flights at all but because the rules of theOpen Skies policy etc will be affected they may be required to do so until new agreements are in place. It may just be possible this will all be there before March of next year but if it is not 2019 flights will be affected - they are planned a year in advance.

jimmy you sound like Farage.

Think of all the profits they will lose out on if flights don't happen.

Brexit is going to have an affect, and will be tough to start with but look how many countries outside the EU thrive and do business. The EU is a small par of the world.

I doubt very much that any EU country will demand that British citizens get visas to travel in or out, but yes, it seems likely post Brexit that passport control will apply at ports, airports, international trains and border crossings into Denmark and Sweden. What the rest of the EU that does not have border controls at crossing points will do is anyone's guess.

Presumably international airports will be increasing charges for flights from Britain and a rise in costs is always passed on to the passenger, so yes, travel will become dearer.

What puzzles me is that those who voted for Brexit, like those who voted for Scotland's independence and were so narrowly defeated a couple of years ago, seem to have assumed that prices would not rise if the status quo changed. Of course prices will rise - any excuse is always better than none if you want to raise the price of anything

Easy jet have an owner who is part British and part Cypriot so he is OK to remain owning and operating from what will be outside the EU and inside - Austria.

O'Leary is Irish and his HQ is Dublin but he does much of his business through the UK - his base in Stansted may well suffer but if he is forced to have a base on mainland EU he is likely to take a lot of staff with him - those who are willing to relocate as 3rd country citizens. He has mentioned it takes longer to relocate staff than aircraft.

The loss of UK jobs is one of the things which worries me - all this relocating even of only part of a business - such as the big league banks etc will still mean job losses and therefore a drop in tax revenue.

Gradually it may well be that other companies grow within the UK and over the years the UK is again fine but how long will it take? The Banking crisis had a huge impact on the lives of many people as did the rises in mortgage rates some years ago. Families which suffer from these problems take years to recover from if ever they do.

The young looking to start a career will find it more difficult and either have to accept any job they can or look abroad - if jobs in the EU are not so open to UK citizens they will need to look further afield and many of us know how it feels to have close family members living thousands of miles away.

I think it should be remembered that airlines such as Ryanair and Easyjet have a vested interest in our remaining in the EU (it makes their business easier). However, the idea they, or any other airline, would simply stop flights is highly unlikely. Everyone seems to be concentrating on what UK would no longer get from the EU. However, the EU does a lot of trade with UK they will not want to do anything which will affect their own citizens. At the moment we are getting posturing from both sides, we have no idea what is actually happening in the real negotiations.

And have their stag and hen dos...

If there is money to be made out of flying people from one place to another for a holiday, someone will find a way to do it. If it gets too expensive to fly abroad, more people will discover what a wealth of wonderful places there are in the UK, and will stay here to spend their holiday money.

Day 6 I didn't say everyone who voted Brexit was anything- this was assumed by you, which probably says more about your prejudices than mine. If you have ever travelled with Ryan air or Easy Jet you would know a substantial amount of their custom is stags and hens and some of these are obviously pro Brexiteers and these are the people who I was thinking of. Or are you saying there are no Brexiteers on any Ryan or easyJet stag and hen party flights?
As far as speculation goes
It is a fact that we have removed ourselves from the EU contract about flights.
It is a fact that airlines need to plan their flights in advance (it's not like getting in your car and just deciding to go somewhere you know)
It is a fact that easy jet will oversee their EU flights from Austria not the UK because we are Brexited.
It is a fact that the whole thing is a F-ing mess and those responsible are now burying their heads in the sand and saying it might never happen.

Oh fgs

It would be worth it to me to be unable to book a flight, just to hear the brexiters saying 'I voted to keep foreigners out, not to find I can't go on holiday'!

Personally, I wouldn't worry about any of it. Ryanair are playing games as usual. Easyjet are probably moving some of their business to Austria, but they haven't said they would no longer operate from the UK..its all a game to force the hand of Brexit negoatiations..and who better to launch it on but the public!

and sour grapes from those who did not bestir themselves to make the effort to vote.

Complacency, inertia or whatever the reason for the low turn-out amongst the young has been a wake-up call for them and they will have to re-energise themselves and build the best future they can with the hand they have been dealt - which is all that each generation can. Constantly looking for negatives, bemoaning their fate is neither constructive nor of any help whatsoever.

Jalima - i think it is wishful thinking. We vote "Out", but the remainers seem to hope that if they make enough noise and the EU is unpleasant enough, we'll take the path of least resistance. I sincerely hope not - it was a democratic vote, the (small) majority of the country voted "out", and that is what should happen.
All the rest is hysteria, supposition and crystal-ball gazing.

No flights out would also mean no flights in! Does anyone honestly think that all those European airlines are going to allow the EU to do that or no agreement reached before Brexit?

KLM, Lufthansa, Air France, Finnair, Air Malta, Iberia, Brussels to name but a few out of the dozens.

Day6 I did vote remain but am rather bemused by the increasing hysteria.

Day6

As for long queues at the airports, the last time I looked the EU queues at Gatwick/Heathrow were far longer than the queues for the immigration of citizens from non EU countries, and the last time I looked was about 4 weeks ago at Gatwick

maddyone yes, my family made the mistake of using the EU queue to come into the UK last time then realised non-EU queue would have been much quicker.

Right with you, Day6.

And why have easy jet moved to Austria?
They are setting up an additional operation in Austria - as well as the ones in the UK and ?Switzerland.

Day6 love your posts, how right you are.

If you look at flight maps it is quite surprising which countries /airspace you fly over/through when going to destinations - the starting of the Great Circle routes in the 50s made a huge change to the routes aircraft fly. All countries have control over their airspace and have agreements with other countries and airlines - Europe etc work as one big area for this and it has made things much easier.

Guy Verhofstadt made a statement in the EU (elected) Parliament explaining the position of Euratom and the EU - due to the Lisbon Treaty they are completely intertwined and membership of one means membership of the other. He said it may be possible to have some sort of Associate Membership if the UK asks Euratom to continue doing the work it does. This of course is a service and services need to be paid for and therefore the UK would need to pay for this service. For members of the EU this service comes with their membership fees etc.
There we are - that is the position of one area which is NOT speculation but we will need to see if the Govt asks for this assistance etc or decides to just risk the nuclear industry etc and hospital equipment which uses isotopes.