the problem is varian that many, (not all, I acknowledge) people did not know what they were voting for, and as this thread has shown, too many people, whether they be politicians or posters on GN, just dismiss concerns as being scaremongering. This thread is only about one potential area of concern, air space, there are thousands of other things to be thrashed out, it is impossible to overestimate the scope of this, to my mind, unnecessary task. Just what did people think was going to happen? I notice there has been a lot less talk recently of 'they need us more than we need them' and 'we are BMW's biggest market' from Davies and his team. I assume they have started to get bogged down in the details, details such as this air space issue.