How much will a flight cost after Brexit?

To be honest, the solution to all this is EEA / EFTA for however long is necessary. I would much prefer to stay in the EU, but it seems to me that this would be the financially prudent way to proceed, until opinion changes. I really don't understand people saying "it will all be fine" when it is clearly impossible to undo 40 years of legislation in less than two years.

mamie
I'm wondering if Norway would find a way round this as they are neither 100% in or out of the eu. I'm sure there's something in the small print that expensive lawyers could find a way round
Ever optimistic.

Richard North is a "leaver" and he seems to suggest there might be a few problems.
www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85068

Would they be able to circumvent the Open Skies agreement, Petra?

I would imagine that if it didn't work out as Ryanair and easyJet want it to, Norwegian Air (a budget airline) will be more than happy and willing to fill the vacuum.

We know about what will need to happen by March 2019 if the UK is out of the Single Market and the Customs Union Day6. How is that speculation?

Even more routes-mmm Well to use the scenario often given when we were voting wouldn't that be a bit like expecting a club to let you in by the back and side door when you're no longer a member and can't get in the front?

BUT, best case scenario, there could be even more routes opened up into Europe in the future, and cheaper flights.

WHO KNOWS?

We just don't know and I refuse to adopt the bleak outlook of many Remainers here.

We are all speculating.

I was thinking of passenger ferries, Mamie, not freight.

I agree wholeheartedly with your post, though.

trisher I'm oop North, too, and yes, the channel ferries are about a 7 hour drive away for us. Unfortunately ferry is still the best way for us to get to our destination in France with a car. Flying would be complex and leave us with no transport...

I love ferries. Much more civilised than planes..

Surely the point here is almost nothing to do with people going on holiday? This is about business and trade, fundamentals of the British economy. Any delay, added expense, added paperwork, added regulations is at best an expensive impediment and at worst a catastrophe for the economy. Do people really think that the British economy is robust enough to cope with this? New IT systems, new buildings, new infrastructure needed in under two years. It hadn't occurred to me until I read it the other day, that the whole physical infrastructure of the tunnel is based on driving off onto the motorway. The concrete is literally in the wrong place for customs and frontier posts.
I disagree about fewer ferries - I use several of the channel ports very regularly and in my experience they are already busier than ever with freight.
It is all very well people harking back to times before the EU, but it isn't 1973 is it? I don't think car parts crossed the channel five times then? The world is a different place.

In Norfolk we can get to Stansted but it's quite a way time wise and the cost of getting there negates any gain on cheap flights. Harwich is our nearest ferry and that's not really practical. Norwich (International!!) is very handy though and we use it for long haul holidays going via Schipol. No cheap flights from Norwich!

Well from oop North we can only get to Holland by ferry, and all the channel ones are a great long drive away. We can fly to loads of places. So it might be OK for you Southerners to rely on ferries. but we would be stranded. Does this mean we would be being discriminated against?

The French and Germans working here are more likely to be working in professional jobs - medicine, teaching, finance than working in coffee shops. There are 3 French families in my road, all professionals. On the other hand, Brits in France and Spain more likely to be retired. Not many Spanish pensioners in U.K.

For twenty years I have resisted us getting a motor home - they are nice to look at but I know it would not be for me at all.

We mainly use the ferries to travel too but that is no good for friends and relations wanting to visit for a short time - and it would tend to make many places a no no for a weekend too as travelling time would be too great.

Much better that people get a choice. O 'Leary is only warning what could happen if there are no plans in place - it is the last thing he wants business wise and like Blair people do not like him so will not take what he says seriously.

If not jealous why post a sarcastic post then.

Are you sure you know what 'jealous' means, ninny. Sarcasm is usually a response to stupidity or something so blindingly obvious that it really didn't need to be said.

It is blindingly obvious that there are other means of accessing Europe (even the US if you can afford the cruise liner charges) but it is also perfectly obvious to some people that if everyone who would normally have flown to Europe goes by ferry instead the ferries would not be able to cope and delays would be immense.

We've been crossing to France on the ferry for nearly 30 years now. Services have been cut to the bone over that period as demand has dropped with the Channel Tunnel and cheap flights. Ferry operators are hardly going to roll out new boats and increase the number of crossings just for the possibility of a few months of no, or restricted, flights.

But at least we'll be free of the EU...

ninny you were the one who made the unpleasant comment and your follow up said it all about you.

If not jealous why post a sarcastic post then. Rigby get over yourself.

ninny why the jealous comment? It does appear quite often on GN and it's really very unpleasant and of course says far more about you than it does about the person you're aiming it at.

Why the assumption that I'm jealous?And not just concerned at the predicament that we're facing?

Jealous are you, I was making the point you can get over on the ferry in a car, van, whatever there are other modes of transport besides airplanes.

'I regularly go over on the ferry there are other ways to travel. I have been all over Europe as far as Dubrovnik in my motorhome. There are trains and buses in Europe just like here.'
...problem solved then. We'll all just go out and buy ourselves a motorhome. Then, of course there might be problems at ports and borders post brexit but, hey, that just adds to the fun of it all#whatanadventure

On a positive note, Riga was lovely, a very enjoyable city break ( but if you want to go you have to go Ryanair, no other airline goes there direct!)

I absolutely agree with you oldwoman70, it's all about publicity, and any publicity is better than none must be his opinion. Of course it wouldn't happen, I agree with you, safety always comes first, he wouldn't have been allowed to have passengers standing. As for £1 to visit the toilets, who knows, nothing would surprise me. However, the central point remains, he courts publicity, just as he is doing now over the 'no flights when we leave the EU' situation.
jalima I agree with you, never fly Ryanair if you can help it. I have flown with them a couple of times but I think they treat their passengers with contempt. An example is when we flew to Riga with them, on our return journey we were instructed to go to the gate over an hour before they loaded the passengers. All the passengers were gathered into a tiny room with only about 10 seats, and the windows and doors were closed. It was the height of summer, old people, children, crying babies, disabled people, all crammed together with no room to move for over an hour, I assume to make sure the plane was loaded quickly when it was ready. I have heard flying Ryanair described as flying 'cattle class' and that about summed up that experience.

The publicity surrounding the charging to use toilets and standing room only on Ryanair flights was just that publicity. O'Leary will do just about anything to publicise his airline. The "standing seats" were a no-go from the beginning and he knew it - they would never have been allowed for safety reasons.

and I agree with Nfk, he is stirring.