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I Will Deal With It

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Anniebach Sun 23-Jul-17 13:25:07

If you have a worry/problem or are concerned about an injustice ,voice your concerns and the person you voice them to replies 'I Will Deal With It' what would you expect?

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 17:01:55

You're right, it's a terrible state of affairs. What do other Cambridge graduates do for work when they don't have Daddies to give them jobs?

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 16:58:31

So are you saying that the only way grammar school educated Seb Corbyn was able to get a job was through Daddy?

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 16:55:55

"And it is true that Jeremy Corbyn’s son Seb has been criticised for taking advantage of the “Who you know” network to get a job working for John McDonnell. Doesn’t that support the argument that’s being made, though – that even an MP’s son had to rely on this system to get work?

But the most effective defence of Momentum’s video is probably the easiest.

If the assertions it makes are so offensive to Conservatives, then why are they based on Conservative policies of the past 40 years?"

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 16:54:13

You really haven't read the link to see the irony, have you.

Oh well, nothing new in that.

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 16:15:25

So if nepotism is 'Tory policy', why does the Labour front keep hiring each others children? I'm sure you'll 'deal with it' in a traditional way.

People can see how hypocritical they are.

Smileless2012 Sat 29-Jul-17 16:14:58

Thatcher replacing student grants with loans in order to put poorer students into debtconfusedwhy? what would be the point?

With the huge increase in the number of those now attending university I don't see how the re introduction of student grants would be possible. Just because someone has parents who can afford to assist them financially through uni. doesn't necessarily mean that they will.

My brother received a student grant. My parents were divorced so mum couldn't assist him financially and even though my father could well have afforded to give more than the bare minimum to my mum in child support, he chose not too and also opted out of any financial support whatsoever while my brother did his degree.

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 15:58:47

The irony is lost on you.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/07/29/tories-label-momentum-video-offensive-for-debating-their-policies/

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 15:51:59

What's not to get? Perhaps the irony is lost on you.

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 15:46:34

As I said, you just don't get it.

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 15:44:30

The video is hilarious. JC and his cronies put down by Momentum.

Ana Sat 29-Jul-17 15:36:33

Do you have an aversion to question marks, durhamjen?

Smileless2012 Sat 29-Jul-17 15:36:33

The media in all it's forms needs to give balanced coverage to
all types of fraud. That'll be the day wont it, when there's balanced coverage by everyone on every subjecthmm.

rosesarered Sat 29-Jul-17 15:06:10

Of course public sector fraud is different, it's our money after all.That doesn't mean that private company fraud is alright in any way.Of course posters 'get it' durhamjen but feel that our money should not be taken by fraudsters.

Penstemmon Sat 29-Jul-17 15:05:28

grin

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 14:57:38

They just don't get it, do they, Penstemmon.

twitter.com/willquince/status/890530368843112449

Penstemmon Sat 29-Jul-17 14:48:30

Not many TV programmes made about procurement fraud but several about benefit fraud.
Not that many headlines about all the private sector'backhanders' but plenty about the undeserving poor!
Who is is that runs the media??
Oh big business whose pals and benefactors get rich from procurement fraud!

I see the exposure of the freeholder/leaseholder greed is beginning to unravel . I expect to see James Tuttiett's name a little more now! Whilst all legal is seems to be total avarice!

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 14:39:57

Sure it matters durhamjen but I have no recourse to private sector companies unless I'm a majority shareholder. And it's a significantly smaller amount compared to revenue. And spread over hundreds of thousands of businesses. And if it impacts the cost/value delivered by that company, I can choose an alternative product.

That's why public sector fraud is different.

How much is procurement fraud? Where are you getting the numbers from?

Smileless2012 Sat 29-Jul-17 14:38:57

No, I haven't seen it dj it beggars belief that someone can get away with it.

Fraud is fraud, big or small and should be stamped out. It makes you wonder if the bigger the fraud in monetary terms, the easier it is to get away with; a bit like hiding in plain sight.

durhamjen Sat 29-Jul-17 14:32:08

How selective can you get, primrose.
74% of fraud is through the private sector, £144 billion.

That matters just as much, surely?
The biggest element of fraud is procurement fraud, companies putting in inflated prices when they tender for government business, e.g., in the NHS, etc.
Very worrying when you think of how many companies are involved in NHS procurement.
Benefit fraud is puny by comparison.
I read an article yesterday about a company charging supposed students £21,000 if they left the course early, even thogh they had to pay for the course and got no grants or anything. The course was two years, I think, and even if they were offered work in the meantime, they could not take it as it would have cost them £21,000.

That's fraud. Can't remember the name of the company, but it's one that gets lots of government contracts.
Has anyone else seen it?

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 14:31:10

It's almost the entire education spend (£40b)

Smileless2012 Sat 29-Jul-17 14:25:26

shockIt's disgraceful. Like you Primrose I wasshockwhen I saw the figures.

rosesarered Sat 29-Jul-17 14:23:33

Now can we move on?

rosesarered Sat 29-Jul-17 14:22:32

Benefit fraud goes on, at least that has now been aknowledged!

rosesarered Sat 29-Jul-17 14:20:42

Nope Penstemon..... virtue signalling is done by followers of all political parties,
All it needs is an individual who fondly imagines that only they have the necessary insight, wisdom and compassion, and that others lack it.Otherwise known as high horse riding.

Primrose65 Sat 29-Jul-17 14:20:19

Benefit fraud is a small amount. Public sector fraud is massive.