I Will Deal With It

Primrose, is there something wrong with the fact that Corbyn & McDonnell have both supported ... Dianne Abbott too?

I think that could be called scraping the barrel.

I just have Maizie! Are you telling me off?

Anyone supporting Corbyn and his cronies should explain exactly how we won't end up in the same situation as Venezuela if he ever leads the country.

Are you going to respond to the economy thread?

djen perhaps not fake news but non-news.

You asked:
I would like to know what happened there, and if any votes were cast there, and what happened to them.
but apparently only one person thought it could be a polling station - so perhaps one vote was cast - or not.

news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-under-pressure-to-condemn-venezuela-10970635

Corbyn & McDonnell have both supported Chavez and Maduro, Seamus Milne and Dianne Abbott too. They're saying nothing about the dreadful situation there.

Anyone supporting Corbyn and his cronies should explain exactly how we won't end up in the same situation as Venezuela if he ever leads the country.

If you read the skwawkbox article, Jalima, that's exactly what he said. So not even fake news.

Not a 'Fake Polling Station' but 'Fake News'

It was not a 'fake polling station'
One person thought it was and reported it to the police who found nothing untoward and no votes were cast.
www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/fake-fishponds-polling-station-turns-261310

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/01/corbyn-betraying-young-people-brexit-colossal-nonsense-middle-aged-remainers

why did you want me to do, nod my head and let it go?
You posted earlier We need good quality, investigative journalism to make sure those in power are always aware that their actions are held to account.
Then you post one of the laziest, poorly researched, inaccurate pieces of right-wing propaganda I have ever read. But hey if that's the sort of stuff you consider good quality journalism that says more about you than it does anything else.

David Starkey is a right wing historian

My view hasn't changed at all trisher. The blog post does not reflect the article correctly. That was my point - read my post from Mon 31-Jul-17 21:28:00.
You've all rushed off and written a critique of an article for some reason. I have no idea why.

I would ask what you agree with and what you don't Primrose65 but as I suppose it is the stuff about the far left recruiting disillusioned graduates, and you never like me asking anything so I won't bother. I wonder though does the writer really think that clever people will not become left wing without a university education? Because history indicates that isn't so. The Labour Party and the communist party had at their core a group of people who left school at 14 but educated themselves through the WEA and wanted education for their children and grandchildren.

Your friend Gove thinks that skwawkbox is responsible news.

Here's an interesting story from it.

skwawkbox.org/2017/07/31/excl-fake-polling-station-confirmed-in-bristol-but-no-charges-brought/

I wonder what people think of it. I would like to know what happened there, and if any votes were cast there, and what happened to them.

You appear to be ignoring my response to the whole article though, primrose.
So you agree with that, do you?

Steve Walker thought it was worth considering and durhamjen thought his considerations were worth posting trisher. I disagree with both of them but I wouldn't dismiss it so callously.

Huge demand for engineers, as well. Tell that to my son who hasn't had a job as an engineer since he got his degree.

It is a weird pice of writing with so many inconsistencies and inaccuracies it isn't worth considering. As I've already said the 'chasm' in law degrees and training for a legal career has existed for at least 20 and probably 40 years. It's not just to do with law degrees per se but also the willingness of graduates to move as the area in which they graduate can only support a certain number.
As for the assertion that academics are mainly left wing and you can't have a right wing historian, it was brilliantly satirised in the History Boys by Alan Bennett years ago and the idea was that actually you can say anything and the more controversial the better.
A degree in any discipline produces someone who is more able to adapt and train to any career, not necessarily in their degree subject..
I didn't ask you anything Primrose65 I was addressing petra's question. You see some people have manners and respond reasonably to requests.

You're right it is worse Jen. Thanks for pointing it out. I missed it completely.

Goodness me, those dreadful educated people not voting Tory!

I think she has done, GracesGran.
The full one is worse than the skwawkbox. Steve Walker was being kind.

The Telegraph doesn't want so many people being educated to degree standard as it just produces a load of disgruntled Corbynites, ready for a Stalinist revolution.

Sharing one article per week is absolutely fine GracesGran as everyone can have access to 1 free paywall article a week. Providing it doesn't break the T&Cs of the paywall, there's no infringement.

I must admit I would like to see the whole article to make up my mind but you would probably be breaking copy write if you did that Primrose so a bit unfair to GN.

If I could see the point of mentioning a relative I wouldn't care who did it, but in this case I can't see the point.

Just start a "Why did you do that Primrose?' thread trisher

Here's the link to the synopsis durhamjen posted

skwawkbox.org/2017/07/31/tory-press-finally-admits-we-want-you-uneducated-so-youll-vote-tory/

Being unintelligent and uneducated helps you vote Conservative.

I'm not saying the Telegraph printed a great article.
I'm not saying I agree with anything written.

I'm simply saying the blog post does not reflect the article.

The young have just had their first brush with the brutal cynicism of politics. Those of us fearful that a Labour government will lead inexorably to Venezuela-style ruin will have welcomed the downgrading of the party’s £100 billion pledge to wipe out student debt to a mere aspiration. But it will have come as a cold shower to the countless others who were led to believe that Jeremy Corbyn plays by different rules to other politicians.
Or will it? The contention is that once young people realise that the bribes will never materialise, they will vote for a party honest about the disastrous long-term state of the public finances. But it is far more likely is that they’ll continue their march Left, unless we address a problem that anyone who believes in aspiration will be squeamish about tackling: too many go to university.
Tony Blair’s target of getting 50 per cent into university was a pernicious exercise in social engineering. A graduate degree does not necessarily lead to a graduate job. There is a chasm, for example, between the number achieving legal degrees and those receiving training contracts. Where do they end up? Presumably in careers far less lucrative than the law.
This is not true everywhere: there is huge demand for engineers and scientists, and evidence that higher tuition fees have incentivised students to take courses more likely to result in better pay. But given that universities face no real downside to churning out enormous numbers of unemployable humanities graduates, we’re rapidly creating an educated, bitter underclass with ever more devalued degrees – the number of Firsts awarded has soared eight percentage points in the last five years. With the earnings premium from a degree declining too, this isn’t about debt but prospects.
Institutions once at the vanguard of liberal thought have also succumbed to a kind of intellectual Stalinism, influencing the politics of professors and students. Just 7 per cent of academics voted Tory in the last election, with more than 80 per cent backing Left-wing parties. Vast quantities of research is produced, much of it never cited again, and yet the number of Tory‑supporting academic historians, for example, is vanishingly small.
In this stultifying culture of uniformity, different views are discouraged through “safe spaces” and “no platforming”. Even free market capitalists aren’t safe. A talk at Exeter University last year by Yaron Brook of the Ayn Rand Institute was disrupted by student activists.
The solution lies partly in creating a proper market in education, which to the Government’s credit is beginning to happen. When students can more easily identify which courses are worth pursuing and where, they are less likely to be so dispirited by their prospects that they become easy prey for the far-Left. But we also need far greater diversity of provision. There are currently only a tiny number of fully private higher education institutions in Britain. Unless we have more to compete with the Left-dominated incumbents, universities will continue to be factories for Corbynites.