Government Watch - 2

Indeed they have durhamjen but I don’t remember any GNers saying anything but sympathetic things about them.

Something everyone should watch Jen - but those whose understanding is the least are most likely not to do so.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/04/damian-green-harassed-woman-lied-tory-modernisers-may-deputy

So you watch the tax research video, then the article about 1 in 5 pensioners being in poverty, then watch the Ageuk Christmas ad.
If people realised about MMT, they would also realise that pensioner poverty is just a political choice, as is the treatment of the NHS and the jobless.

Here's another interesting article from the same website.

www.thepileus.com/economics/neoliberalism-tainted-relationship-employment/

A good one to read on Philip Hammond's birthday, but I bet he doesn't.

Talking about pensioner poverty, is there anyone on Gransnet who goes round on the buses just to keep warm, even though you haven't got any money to go anywhere?
Thank heavens for bus passes.

If those two policemen were now saying that they had seen child porn on his computer, wouldn't we now be congratulating them for speaking out?

Exactly, Morgana.
Why are more people not shocked that there were about 3000 pornographic photos on his computer?
There is no enquiry into how they got there, and it's been known about for a long time now.

I still say you have to be careful. It is quite possible for both Damien Green and the two police people to be in the wrong.

Sorry for the delay, whitewave. I was suggesting that someone else could have put it there. If they had, whether he would have known would depend on what use he made of his Parliament computer, where the pictures were filed, whether he checked his browser history, etc.

My overall point was that these things are very hard to prove, either way.

But you see grumppa if someone had put it there, that means that green is allowing other unknown people access to his computer and by default access to sensitive material. However you look at Green has behaved extremely unwisely.

durhamjen

" Two Labour MPs have died because of this, lemon. You appear to have forgotten."

Have you forgotten durhamjen?

That is exactly why posters who behave in a kangaroo court fashion should be ashamed of themselves not to have learnt lessons!

Shame on posters who are making practically allegations of guilt without due diligence and I don't care if it is about a Tory, Labour , Lib Dem MP or Uncle Tom bloody Cobley. I am not saying the subject is taboo but for heavens sake making allegations is another thing.

As for raising the poor souls who took their life we do not know anything more than the time line, speculation and whilst we may have our views it is timely to remind those posters / the media who are targeting Damian Green and making comments alluding to his guilt that this behaviour may well have contributed to not only theirs but their families awful situation .

So everybody needs to remember and stop playing judge and jury until the facts are substantiated.

Good point, Pogs.
Instead of "innocent until proved guilty" it has become "guilty until proved innocent".

How about the latest from the government

Hammond. “ productivity rates are down BECAUSE SO MANY DISABLED PERSONS HAVE ENTERED THE WORKPLACE”

"Labour MP John Mann, a Committee member, said the Chancellor’s comments were “appalling” and later tweeted: “Chancellor just linked low productivity growth to the labour market and specified the increased employment of disabled people.

“My experience of employing disabled people is that they are brilliant employees. The chancellor’s comments are ignorant.”

Anna Bird, director of policy and research at disability charity Scope, said: “These comments are totally unacceptable and derogatory.

“They fundamentally undermine the Government’s policy to get more disabled people into work, and the ambition set out by the Prime Minister just a week ago.

“The Chancellor must urgently withdraw them and offer a full apology.” "

The person who wrote that blog knows what she is talking about, unlike Hammond.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/

I would say that comment by Hammond is unbelievable except, sadly, it isn't.

evolvepolitics.com/over-60000-people-demand-richard-branson-returns-328k-he-won-suing-nhs/

We need our money back. He couldn't care less about the NHS.

So Philip Hammond is telling employers that their productivity is likely to go down if they employ someone with a disability.

That will help people with a disability into work will it?

He was asked to resign over that a few days ago.
Of course, he ignored the request!

This is very apt.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/atos-pr-company-director-wants-me-to-phone-him-about-1-of-my-articles/

Can't wait for the corollary. Good to see she will not be bullied, particularly as she knows what she is talking about.
I think I said before she is listed as the 8th most important political blogger.

I see Anne Marie Morris has had the Tory whip restored even though she used utterly foul racist language.

Of course they can’t afford to loose a single mp can they.

Party above morals

Grieve - good speech
“Difficulty with this referendum is that we are losing sight that 48% did not vote for the policy we are pursuing”

At long last someone who recognises our existence

How can anyone trust this government to keep its word on the meaningful vote after the bullshit of the 58 assessments?

I recommend Grieves speech it is outstanding and utterly unanswerable, and this government knows it.

Nail biting time. I suspect .the rebels will chicken out as usual but one can live in hope