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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

whitewave Mon 13-Nov-17 07:48:47

tegan all inland water is ultimately the responsibility of the EA. Not sure about canals, but presumably if they became a flood risk? Or something.

Certainly the EA is in control of all rivers, flood, pollution etc. As well as if some body tries to extract too much water to the detriment of wildlife.

durhamjen Sun 12-Nov-17 23:22:52

I don't know why it has to be separated from the water supply. After all, the reservoirs are part of it and they are owned by the water companies. Kielder and the Derwent Reservoir round here are owned by Northumbrian Water, which is owned by Li Ka-Shing, in Hong Kong.

If the canals and rivers can be owned by us, why can't the water supply?

Tegan2 Sun 12-Nov-17 22:40:19

visit
www.canalrivertrust.org.uk
For England and Wales
Visit
www.scottishcanals.co.uk
For Scotland
..no, they did manage to pass on the buck to these people...
...I feel bad that I just haven't got the money to support them, as I give money to the Derbyshire Wildlife Trust each month, and can't afford to pay out any more.

durhamjen Sun 12-Nov-17 22:25:13

That's clever of them, Tegan. They forgot they had changed their name, or ceased to exist.

Tegan2 Sun 12-Nov-17 22:19:40

'On 2 July 2012, British Waterways ceased to exist in England and Wales and in its place Canal & River Trust was set up to care for 2,000 miles of historic waterways.
In Scotland British Waterways continues to exist as a legal entity caring for the canals under the trading name 'Scottish Canals'.
Please use this website to view meetings, consultations and documents relating to British Waterways'

durhamjen Sun 12-Nov-17 20:50:22

weownit.org.uk/public-ownership/water

Doesn't mention waterways on this, but all those people who want to take back control don't seem to want us to take back our water supplies.
Our water is owned by Malaysia, Hong Kong, Canada and Australia, among others.

Ceased to exist in 2012.
www.canalrivertrust.org.uk/

GracesGranMK2 Sun 12-Nov-17 20:41:05

Crumbs. I'm not sure how we can know how all the cuts are affecting different areas specifically. That is certainly one I wouldn't have anticipated. I imagine there are more shocks to be had.

Tegan2 Sun 12-Nov-17 20:19:26

I should have known this but I was shocked to find out today whilst walking that the waterways board was no more [government cuts] and that maintenance of our waterways is now a charity. I'm assuming this means just canals and not rivers as well?

whitewave Sun 12-Nov-17 18:55:48

gg I think that there are a lot of Tories think the same.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 12-Nov-17 18:52:03

I have just watched Michael Heseltine on Channel 4. He sounded like a man watching the party he loves crashing into an abyss.

whitewave Sun 12-Nov-17 18:44:45

Watched a political debating programme with a brexiter on it who said that moderate Brexiters are getting more and more disallusioned with the shambles that is the government and the way they are conducting themselves - they have good reason.

durhamjen Sun 12-Nov-17 18:35:10

Guy Verhofstadt is becoming increasingly irritated.
She said that the EU 3 million would be treated the same as now, but apparently there are 25 clauses to keep things the same!

durhamjen Sun 12-Nov-17 18:32:31

Including Maybot!
I wonder where the Younger Tories red line is.

whitewave Sun 12-Nov-17 18:28:54

Interesting to read about the Younger Tories demand that Maybot get rid of the “dead wood” and make way for a younger set of ministers. I wonder who this dead wood is? Most of them imo.

durhamjen Fri 10-Nov-17 19:21:55

"An amendment is going to added to the withdrawal bill explicitly stating that the terms come into force "before, after or at 11.00 p.m. on 29 March 2019". This is, of course, profoundly stupid. According to European law, we leave two years after the Article 50 notification. No-one but the government can stop that and the government is not going to stop that, so putting it in a bill makes no difference. If there was another government which did want to stop it, it would anyway need to repeal the withdrawal bill in order to do that, so putting this line in there is irrelevant."

This is funny, as well. What was all the fuss about?
She hasn't said anything.
"I am going to put in an extra clause to show you I really mean what I say."
I wonder how long it will take for her to realise that what she said is meaningless.

mostlyharmless Fri 10-Nov-17 19:10:07

Definitely dj. She's sounding like the headteacher who is getting more and more shrill while trying to control an unruly assembly!

durhamjen Fri 10-Nov-17 18:05:08

I don't like to say it, but May is sounding more and more as if she doesn't have family. She sounds like the worst sort of headmistress. I can see all the family/pupils sniggering at her behind her back.

mostlyharmless Fri 10-Nov-17 11:22:23

Despite Theresa May using the Daily Telegraph to send out her message that she will not "tolerate" attempts to block Brexit, on Question Time last night the Telegraph columnist (Charles Moore) condemned the Government as weak and frightened and TM was trying to govern by fear which is a sign of failure.

durhamjen Fri 10-Nov-17 10:11:20

Over a million signatures on it now.

durhamjen Fri 10-Nov-17 10:10:24

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/richard-ratcliffe/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe_b_18512176.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-boris-johnson

Richard Ratcliffe talking about his wife and what is happening, asking for you to sign the petition to free Nazanin.

www.change.org/p/free-nazanin-ratcliffe

Welshwife Fri 10-Nov-17 09:01:43

Becoming more and more like a dictatorship and using the excuse of the small referendum majority as giving permission for them to do as they wish.

MaizieD Fri 10-Nov-17 08:06:05

Sorry, ww. A misattribution. It was you who mentioned transition.

MaizieD Fri 10-Nov-17 08:04:36

It'll be because of the EU's Tax Avoidance Directive. It comes into force 1st Jan 2019 and, as I understand it, must be implemented by member states from the start of their 2019 tax year. Ours starts 5th April 2019 so if we've left by then it doesn't have to be implemented. Itvwould explain why she rushed into A50, too. It is clear who is pulling her strings; they've been doing it right from the start.

Though, as dj notes, where would it leave May's transition idea?

whitewave Fri 10-Nov-17 07:37:43

Another misjudgement by Maybot. Just as she rushed in with A50, thus resulting in the chaos we are watching over Brexit , so she is rushing into law the date we actually leave. I’m not clear how this sits with transition for a start. Oh dear will no one save us from this troublesome government?

whitewave Fri 10-Nov-17 07:23:35

His barely suppressed arrogance in parliament, would not allow him to give a fulsome apology thereby reinforcing his original statement. The idiots a bloody menace.