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whitewave Wed 26-Jul-17 13:27:27

Very much needed.

First happy thing to report.

Unison have won their case making it illegal to charge employees for employment litigation. Introduced by the Tories in 2013.

The judges quite rightly said it was wrong to make it difficult/impossible for anyone to resort to law.

Those who paid will be reimbursed.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 19:05:15

Boris really needs to go.
Has anyone else been following the case in Iran of Nazanin Radcliffe?

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/new-boris-johnson-blunder-risks-extra-jail-term-for-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-as-may-faces-priti-patel-israel-row_uk_5a00a989e4b0baea2633cc12?utm_hp_ref=uk-boris-johnson

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 18:21:35

38 degrees has a petition to ask the government to do something about tax dodging - again, I know.
12000+ signatures today. We need lots of snowflakes to create an avalanche.

JessM Mon 06-Nov-17 16:55:10

The queen could even find some ways to diminish or offset her energy bills, one would think... Good post re the awful "Brighthouse" Nelliemoser. They are down there in the gutter with the pay-day lenders. Even if the queen does not have detailed discussions about her investments she is quite within her power to say "Make sure our investments are ethical and that nothing about them could embarrass the monarchy".

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 15:44:13

"The Queen asked ministers for a poverty handout to help heat her palaces but was rebuffed because they feared it would be a public relations disaster, documents disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act reveal.

Royal aides were told that the £60m worth of energy-saving grants were aimed at families on low incomes and if the money was given to Buckingham Palace instead of housing associations or hospitals it could lead to "adverse publicity" for the Queen and the Government.

Aides complained to ministers in 2004 that the Queen's gas and electricity bills, which had increased by 50 per cent that year, stood at more than £1m a year and had become "untenable". "

This was in 2010. If she can put £10 million in a Cayman fund, she can pay her own fuel bills. Strangely enough, I have never been able to separate my public money from my private money. The money I got from the public always went to pay my private bills; it still does.

maryeliza54 Mon 06-Nov-17 15:33:57

And I don't care whose money ER is investing - she's the Queen and should damn well try and show some leadership and moral standards

maryeliza54 Mon 06-Nov-17 15:31:56

I know its hard to keep on being shocked but I truly am by this - the number of meetings, the people in attendance and then LYING about the FO knowing about the whole matter. She is an absolute disgrace and should be sacked immediately - moral bankruptcy doesn't come close to describing her behaviour or that of TM if she doesn't sack her. And then we wonder why there's trouble in the Middle East

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 15:27:02

BBC reporting that Patel had about 10 meetings including meeting the PM whilst on “holiday” in Israel.

She apologises for not informing the FO. She now needs to apologise for lying.

durhamjen Mon 06-Nov-17 15:21:20

You can know where your pension investments are.

www.ethicalconsumer.org

Also, every year you should have an assessment from your financial adviser to find out what your financial interests are, whether you want to take risks, or whether you want to invest ethically or not, and what you mean by ethically, and whether anything has changed.

Nelliemoser Mon 06-Nov-17 14:36:37

This is shocking Bright House is truly evil. They have now been heavily fined and made to pay compensation.

Their interest rates were appalling and extortionate.
They were targetting the poorest in the town where there is a lot of poverty and many shops boarded up.

There are a lot of furniture out lets in the town, a BHF shop and a church furniture store. Which can provide safe tested 2nd hand white goods and fire safe furniture.

Do schools not teach against this sort of company behaviour or do people really not understand how interest works.

That shop has upset me every time I walk past it in the arcade.
www.theguardian.com/money/2012/nov/23/brighthouse-heavy-price-paying-by-week

"Living on the never never. "
The owners of that brand are greedy buggers ! sad for those victims.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 06-Nov-17 14:22:46

Theresa May must be lying down in a darkened room by now......

I suppose there is a point where chaos becomes a way of life Mostly, rather like living in a war zone.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:12:39

I have never known a period of such goings on -ever. I tried to start to list it under various headings and began to blow a fuse. It is incredible.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:10:28

That’s in “open democracy” btw

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 14:08:55

Something else to get your head around.

The money given to the DUP in the run up to Brexit - and remember they supported Brexit has links to the Saudis.

MaizieD Mon 06-Nov-17 14:06:33

"It's our money, after all, that she's investing".

Sorry, dj, I have to disagree with you on this one. She gets the Sovereign Grant from the Treasury to maintain the institution and constitutional position of the Monarchy. I would be appalled if I thought she was investing that to enrich herself. But it's her private wealth she's investing. It's no more 'ours' than is Richard Branson's or the Duke of Westminster's (unless you subscribe to the doctrine that 'property is theft'.

Welshwife Mon 06-Nov-17 13:31:24

And I see that the arch Brexiterr Redwood is advising people to invest their money in the EU rather than the UK!!!

Nandalot Mon 06-Nov-17 13:26:25

And while the rich with their accountants search out ways to avoid tax, many unemployed people are having their local job centres closed. 87 over 7 months. Although some may be relocated to local council offices etc. many are being relocated to other job centres many miles away. e.g. Petersfield to Havant. Shameful.

whitewave Mon 06-Nov-17 12:01:57

It isn’t about investing abroad but everything to do with tax avoidance.

grumppa Mon 06-Nov-17 11:47:45

That's a very narrow view, maryeliza54. Think of all the Commonwealth countries she could be investing in.

yggdrasil Mon 06-Nov-17 10:59:13

Let's be fair, HM doesn't do investments herself. And I believe she getting someone to investigate her agents. I can't know if my pensions are coming from legal funds, can I .

durhamjen Sun 05-Nov-17 22:43:46

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/05/tax-havens-are-shady-places-made-available-by-lawyers-accountants-and-bankers-for-those-seeking-to-hide-their-money/

durhamjen Sun 05-Nov-17 22:16:58

That's what I thought, maryeliza. It's our money, after all, that she's investing.
Did you see that one of the companies that her offshore money is investing in is BrightHouse?
www.theguardian.com/money/2017/oct/24/rent-to-own-retailer-brighthouse-ordered-to-repay-14m-to-customers

maryeliza54 Sun 05-Nov-17 22:07:46

The very least the queen could do is invest in Britain and British companies. Grubby, sleazey, hypocritical - let them eat cake

durhamjen Sun 05-Nov-17 20:59:40

Even the Queen involved in hiding her money offshore.
Maybe HMRC should be given a different name.
Hiding tax from herself is very clever.

durhamjen Sun 05-Nov-17 20:56:07

www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/lord-ashcroft-offshore-trust-wealth-tory-peer-paradise-papers

He was on the programme, being chased by Richard Bilton.

whitewave Sun 05-Nov-17 20:32:04

So to sleaze we have to add financial fiddling on an enormous scale.

I think you’ll find Ashcroft in Belize dj