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A divided society-what can be done?

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trisher Wed 02-Aug-17 09:35:46

As Newcastle gets £500000 ot fight right wing extremism
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/right-wing-edl-newcastle-racism-13402419
there is also news that the cities 2 universities are still attracting EU students and there are increasing numbers of students from the Middle and Far East coming here. Will the money really help? And what can be done to mend a fractured society? When I see the EDL demonstrating and yelling in a city centre crowded with all nationalities I can only see more trouble ahead. Can you educate people to understand the benefits these students bring?

Chewbacca Mon 07-Aug-17 16:09:14

At 11.11.21 yesterday, I posted the experiences that a colleague of mine had had when renting out her mother's house. She spent £9000 to get it ready for rental and then had spend another £4000 repairing it when her young tenants had finished trashing it. The response? Get a better agent! My colleague will not be renting her house out to anyone again because she can't face having that happen again. It's sad that a good, low rent property has been removed from the market because, around here, they're as rare as hens teeth. Not saying that all young people are the same but, as in any walk of life, the minority spoil it for the rest.

trisher Mon 07-Aug-17 16:01:10

What have I said to show 'a bias against landlords' Smileless2012 ? Was it my view that more than 3 properties should mean heavier taxation? That isn't bias, I believe higher incomes should be (and are) taxed more as well. Only you know why you kept quiet and if you feel guilty.
Jalima1108 my original post was about racism, it drifted on to poverty. being one of the causes and then on to housing. It happens.

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Aug-17 15:54:55

If you were a decent tenant dj why would you have had problems with your landlord? It isn't wrong for landlords to not wish to have tenants under a certain age if they've had problems with younger tenants in the past.

I wonder how hostile you would feel if your tenant had vacated your property and left you with broken appliances, cigarette burns in the carpet (smoking wasn't even permitted in the property) and in an overall condition that you wouldn't kennel a dog in.

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Aug-17 15:49:03

For goodness sake trisher; why should I feel guilty because we provide well maintained and comfortable accommodation for people who cannot afford to buy their own?

Everyone's opinions are subject to a degree of bias. You for example appear to have a bias against landlords.

durhamjen Mon 07-Aug-17 15:48:37

I've rented seven times altogether in moving around the country. The first three of them were when we were under 35.
Luckily landlords were not so hostile then.
We never had any problems with landlords, either.
It's wrong that landlords should say they will not rent to under 35s. It's also wrong that anyone needing housing benefit can only get it at the shared accommodation rate if they are under 35.
Both my children were teenagers then.

The government has decided to divide society at lots of different ages, depending on pay and benefits, but that is the most iniquitous of all.

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Aug-17 15:40:08

Exactly devongirl "having an involvement in the situation being discussed is bound to have an impact on your view". That is why when commenting on dj's post regarding landlords not wishing to rent to people under the age of 35, I explained why some don't and reinforced my explanation by citing our personal experience of tenants.

To have mentioned it before would have been irrelevant to any of the other posts I have made on this thread.

Jalima1108 Mon 07-Aug-17 15:35:26

It was getting silly when posters tried to make someone feel guilty because they may be a landperson.

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 15:33:02

I'd be hung drawn and quartered if I put all my details: oh, I forgot, I have been already by some people grin

devongirl Mon 07-Aug-17 15:20:02

I'm sure we can take it as read that most, if not all, of us have rented at some time. Honestly, this is just getting silly.

Jalima1108 Mon 07-Aug-17 15:16:40

How many of us have rented?

We have - I confess all.

devongirl Mon 07-Aug-17 15:13:25

That really isn't the point. It's not a question of deception, but that having an involvement in the situation being discussed is bound to have an impact on your views, so it's helpful to know.

Ana Mon 07-Aug-17 15:01:14

Why would Smileless have mentioned it at all if she was trying to deceive people, trisher?

Jalima1108 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:42:14

Shouldn't the term be landperson as we don't know if Smileless is male or female (although I think I know) and 'landlord' is a term which assumes everyone who owns property other than their own home is male?
Landlady? - brings back memories of 1940ps/50s holidays in Blackpool where the landlady made you go out for the day after breakfast even if it was pouring with rain.

trisher are we on the right track with your thread or has it wandered (as threads tend to do) away from what you intended to be discussed?

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 14:32:43

Well at least I'm blued. Which is more than I can say for some others, not mentioning any names.....wink

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 14:28:50

There's a lot of news around, but sometimes it's just fun to see the the funny side of life, or should I say some posts.

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 14:28:00

Or written up on your profile, so you can be judged even if you chose not to join a thread grin

trisher Mon 07-Aug-17 14:27:06

No but it might be appropriate to explain why you have certain views on a subject if there is something relevant. Why wouldn't you? Couldn't be anything to do with feeling a bit guilty about it could it? Or of wanting people to think you are posting from a neutral position. Bit like turning out for a football team wearing the team strip under another plain one. No one knows who you're playing for.

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 14:21:07

So we all need to make a declaration of interest at the start of every thread then? Just incase? hmm

durhamjen Mon 07-Aug-17 14:20:06

Exactly, devongirl, thanks for understanding.

They can't help being so childish. It is, after all, the silly season for news.

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 14:19:52

annie
I'm afraid this heinous crime will have to go before the jury at the kangaroo court sad
But to be fair, I think you should be warned that it will have something to do with Jeramy Corbyn. Brace yourself shock

devongirl Mon 07-Aug-17 14:18:36

Very funny. It is simply helpful to know if the poster has some personal involvement in the issue being discussed.

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 14:05:48

Remember .......You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in (this kangaroo ) court.

gillybob Mon 07-Aug-17 14:01:28

Anniebach why did you not declare this ages ago?

Have you no shame woman?

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 13:54:50

I had better confess , I arrange all the renting out of ten properties in Cardiff. Forgive me please grin

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 13:49:25

Well, if we can only post from our own situational perspective, I think that's killed the homelessness chat.