A divided society-what can be done?

I know Annie I posted a link to Corbyn and Venezuela on the deal with it thread yesterday. He is indefensible.
To be fair, I don't really criticise other Labour politicians so no one has had to run to the defence of Chuka Umunna!

And actually raising dj's grandson was a bit of a low blow. I'm sure he would be in mainstream education if there was proper provision for hm. As far as jobs go, we are struggling for teachers anyway and one child missing from a class of 30 wouldn't create any jobs.

Ah back to Corbyn again I thought the argument would have to be deflected somehow.
Annie I have no 'venom' in my insides or any where else. I simply like openness and honesty in everything and when someone posts something I like to know where they are coming from.
If this offends you I can't help it.

Primrose, they only defend far left politicians , such as Corbyn,Thornberry,McDonald and Abbott , and remain silent on Venezuela because Corbyn has put it forward as his utopia.

Not now what?

Annie The only way to do no wrong on these forums is to be a Labour politician, then you can do whatever you like. They are only criticising you as they have no political arguments in them. They'll start back on me soon enough I'm sure.

But not now eh

Keep going Trisher, free your insides of all that venom, doesn't bother me. God knows what I do and think, he will judge me. You? Nah

Awwww Gilly , I assure you there have been times in the past when i have searched the back of the sofa the day before pay day ?

Seems you can't explain, so to clarify:
You are condemning a hard working Labour MP who works hard and has to declare all her interests
BUT
You 'administer' a large number of properties for which you are not paid, but from which you make money and which someone else owns, but you don't feel the need to explain anything.
Now personally I couldn't give a damn if you are working for Rackman but your condemnation of Thornberry is despicable.
You are suppose to be a Christian- mote in your own eye perhaps

I work and do not get paid so am robbing someone of a job. I assume .Jen charges for teaching her grandson ?

It's perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain who isn't determined to think the worst what Annie is doing. The clue is in the word 'administers'.

I believe the changes to expenses re withdrawal of payment of mortgage interest is one of the factors that has led to more MPs becoming landlords. So an MP under the old rules bought a flat and had his /her mortgage interest paid. That stopped so same MP rented a flat, had rent paid, and rented out the flat he owned ( sometimes to another MP) and used that rent to fund mortgage. For me, the real issue was that they got help with the mortgage interest but got to keep the increase in value of the flat/house ( minus any capital gains tax if they hadn't flipped but flipping's another story). I think this is one issue - and different from an MP who has a portfolio of rental properties. I don't understand why it matters whether a property is ex- council house or ex- housing association. If it's on the market and bought legitimately, why is that different from buying a house that was always a privately owned house? I think that's a different issue from buying the council house or housing association house that you actually live in at the point of sale. Not necessarily better or worse but different issues arise. My niece bought a lovely ex housing association house - the woman she bought it from had bought it under right to buy from the housing association - the real pity was that it was able to be sold in the first place in an area of real rental housing shortage at affordable rents.

Well I wish I could say the same Anniebach

So it's Ok to make accusations about people without revealing anything about your own situation even though it is relevant to a discussion and some of your comments have led to people assuming certain things about you? It's just trying to ascertain why Annie feels the need to present a certain profile and to condemn a socialist MP. To clarify her position and any personal interest she has in the discussion. If there is shit around it isn't coming from anyone else, and I agree the whole thing stinks.

Gilly, apart from the awaited gas bill I don't owe anyone anything.

Didn't expect you to withdraw your false accusation Trisher , I am pleased I have given you and Jen someone to sharpen your claws on and make yourselves look sooooo childish at the same time,

Why did I use an asterix ? To be polite? To save upsetting those with sensitive eyes?

The word was shit ! You couldn't make this shit up !

You really couldn't make this sh*t up could you ?
You don't owe anyone an explanation Anniebach

The tin is clearly labelled Annie you aren't nor are the properties you 'administer'. Please note I haven't withdrawn my tax-dodging accusation!

My mother had exotic tastes maryeliza

Jen, when I tin rattle for the Salvation Army and the Captain telephones me he says - Annie you made £x this year , I do not take money from the tin

"I do not receive one penny from the properties..."
"The money I make on them..."

Sorry, that does not make sense.

Annie read your own post-you don't get paid, you make money on them. It's there in black and white. As I said I don't know who you are doing it for, but as far as volunteering goes sounds a bit far fetched to me. And if you are working and making money and not declaring it you are probably doing it so you don't have to pay any tax. Tax dodging then. Even if you are doing it purely for goodwill you are depriving someone else of a job and someone somewhere is making money. Whatever the situation it is as dodgy as anything you have accused Emily Thornberry of.

Of course she owns the house she lives in.
But with your vast knowledge of how parliament works, even you should know that MPs do not need to declare the houses they live in.

Lots of MPs rent from each other, even ones who live near enough to commute. They still fiddle the taxpayer that way.
Don't have time to go through that list to find out who does that.