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Newcastle sex grooming

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gillybob Thu 10-Aug-17 10:20:07

So yet another 17 Asian men have been found guilty of sex grooming, rape and human trafficking of vulnerable women and young girls.

This has got to stop. It is clear that the social services, police and others are letting these young women and girls down, big style. Have they been brushing it under the carpet for fear of racial reprisals ?

Why are some news reports still reluctant to say that the perpetrators of these crimes are almost all ASIAN MEN ?

I am so angry.

petra Wed 23-Aug-17 22:43:45

dbDB77
Answer: because she's one of corbyns babes.
Could I just add that she retweeted that 9 days after she had criticised for Sarah Champion.

dbDB77 Wed 23-Aug-17 22:38:34

Naz Shah, the Labour MP who had to apologise for making dreadful anti-Semitic posts & who criticised Sarah Champion, has liked & re-tweeted a message saying that the girls in Rotherham & elsewhere should "shut their mouths for the sake of diversity". How could she do that?

Iam64 Wed 23-Aug-17 18:46:50

I was out of internet reach for most of the week when durhamjhen posted the link to the talkradionews on 11 August so I've just seen it. It reminds me so much of the police investigations into e.g. Cyril Smith, where it is beyond question that investigations that should have led to prosecution, which is highly likely to have led to convictions, were closed down. The police involved refer to 'men in suits from London - M15' arriving, taking their files, warning them if they ever talked not only would they lose their jobs, they'd go to prison for breaching the official secrets act.
I'm not a huge fan of conspiracy theories. When investigations go wrong, it's often down to mistakes or poor management of the information gathered and the general view within society that csa/cse can't be as prevalent because how could that be, that would mean we're all culpable and that can't be true - can it?
In answer to your question petra I'd say many many many more and I do not link that solely to the kind of organised abuse this thread is focussed on.

petra Wed 23-Aug-17 16:50:40

And yet another 5 men on trail in Newcastle for child grooming.
How many more?

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 22:34:04

So? You could listen to the recording if you want to find out why she said that.

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 22:31:27

Cameron didn't stand down until July 2016

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 22:09:59

Anyone heard this today?

talkradio.co.uk/news/child-abuse-inquiry-member-i-was-silenced-2015-ensure-theresa-may-could-become-prime-minister

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 17:20:12

Thanks Jalima, I didn't think anyone would take the remark seriously

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 17:18:09

Nothing riverwalk, I did refer to it in a throw away comment ,enough to set some off

Riverwalk Fri 11-Aug-17 16:59:44

WTFFFFF has crucifixation practised 2,000 years ago to do with events in Newcastle??

I know threads wander, but FFS!!

And what have Jews to do with the price of fish?

Jalima1108 Fri 11-Aug-17 16:32:29

Crucifixation was not invented by the Romans but probably was used by the Persians centuries earlier.

Jalima1108 Fri 11-Aug-17 16:28:52

AB, just to be clear the Romans didn't have to give in to the Jews. They did so because it suited them politically to do so. We never learn from history.
Judea was a Roman province ruled by Rome and the Romans installed Herod (a Jew) as its King.

I don't think anniebach's remark was meant to be taken literally Welshwife
I can't believe that anyone would think that it was.

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 16:26:13

Welsh wife, surprise surprise, I did not mean I supported cruxifiction

Welshwife Fri 11-Aug-17 16:21:19

Crucifixion was used as a method of execution for some time - the Romans asked the Jews who should they spare -Christ or Barabas - they knew crucifixion was the method of execution - it is too simplistic to say they made the Romans do it - the Romans were the rulers.

I still say it is a barbaric method and cannot understand why anyone who professes to be a Christian would advocate its use.

However it does not solve the problem of these gangs and the poor children who are having their lives ruined.

Devorgilla Fri 11-Aug-17 15:06:54

AB, just to be clear the Romans didn't have to give in to the Jews. They did so because it suited them politically to do so. We never learn from history.

Devorgilla Fri 11-Aug-17 15:05:34

AB, last post was referring to the Romans.
I agree. It doesn't say a lot for the men using these poor girls/women.
Yes, those in enforced labour, fondly referred to as economic migrants, are also slaves. It says a lot about turning a blind eye for cheap food etc. When the Unions first protested though about migrants working for lower wages they were accused of racism as I recall. Happy to be corrected on that though.

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 15:00:40

Sorry Devro, who didn't have to?

Devorgilla Fri 11-Aug-17 14:59:26

But AB, they didn't have to. They chose to.

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 14:59:24

Devorgilla, they are also working on farms and building sites .

The use of sex slaves, what does that say for British men

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 14:55:16

The romans did as demanded by the Jews

Devorgilla Fri 11-Aug-17 14:54:26

I agree Anniebach. It is not about religion. Catholic priests and C of E ministers did not abuse the children in their care because they (the clergy) were Christian. They did it because that is the sort of sex they wanted and they had a group they could control.
You ask why there are so many sex slaves etc. I suspect it is because men can demand sex acts from them they can't or won't from their wives/partners. There is an increase in sex slaves because there is an increased market for it. Easier access to hard porn for both sexes gives the impression it is all 'normal'. In a loving relationship, with consent on both sides, no doubt it is but in an abusive, non equal relationship it is not.
I agree. Society has to address the issue as to why so many parents feel they cannot give their child the home it deserves. And society has to be prepared to pay the financial price for good staffing levels to prevent this type of abuse.

Welshwife Fri 11-Aug-17 14:38:24

I thought it was the Romans crucifying the Christians but am happy to be corrected!
Whatever though it is a barbaric thing to do and I would consider that to be absolutely against my Christian beliefs.

durhamjen Fri 11-Aug-17 14:01:01

www.theweek.co.uk/modern-slavery/87695/modern-slavery-affecting-every-uk-town-and-city

The link I put on about the woman in the Netherlands says that her mother sold her into slavery at 6 years of age.

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 13:57:47

Whilst wanting the full force of the law enforced, why do we not ask - where are the parents and relatives of these girls ?

Anniebach Fri 11-Aug-17 13:54:30

As a Christian I have this urge to crucify people.

Why blame sex abuse on religion? If one thing must be blamed thenculture ? but I think it's more than that.

Why are so many slaves in this country? on building sites,farms, brothels? is this Christian faith?