That's a HORRIBLE thing to say petra
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Strictly after Claudia ...........
I thought some peeps might like to get their teeth into this article from today's Sunday Times.
Jacob Rees-Mogg, an English Trump but better at Latin
Chris Lange-KuettnerAugust 13 2017, 12:01am,
As Moggmentum surges, the historian Tim Newark grills his fogeyish back-bench Tory friend about his leadership plans over plum crumble
Jacob Rees-Mogg came round for lunch with us last week in Bath, a suitable location for this politician dubbed “MP for the 18th century”. As it was the summer recess I thought he might have loosened his top button a little but no: he arrived impeccably dressed in a double-breasted suit with a shirt and tie. Rees-Mogg says he has “never worn a pair of jeans”.
Charming and polite throughout lunch, he praised the plum crumble my wife made for him, knowing his delight in traditional British food.
Rees-Mogg is exactly as you would imagine him to be. And these days authenticity is the major currency of any politician with eyes on high office. Only recently taking to Twitter with a Latin maxim, he gets more “likes” and “shares” for his tweets than any cabinet member, including the prime minister.
Fiercely loyal to Theresa May so long as she remains Conservative Party leader, he strikes a growing number of Tory backbenchers as just too good to be left on the back benches. Here is a man with a sharp intellect who serves on the Treasury select committee and gave Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England, a hard time about his anti-Brexit advice before the referendum.
To his fans Rees-Mogg is straight talking, has disarming humour, is good on television, unflinchingly patriotic and a successful businessman from a privileged background who nevertheless understands the concerns of ordinary men and women. Like an English version of Donald Trump but with a better grasp of Latin. Does he see any similarity?
Rees-Mogg answers carefully and says that he fully understands the message of the populist revolution in 2016 that rocked the ruling classes on both sides of the Atlantic. “The governing elite in both the US and the UK,” he said, “had come to the conclusion that the only reason that people wouldn’t do what they said is because they didn’t understand.
“You see this in the shockingly condescending views expressed by some Remoaners who think that the people that voted for Brexit were all stupid. It’s a very odd way of looking at things if you believe in democracy.”
Rees-Mogg said serving the grassroots lies at the heart of his political philosophy: “As a constituency MP I am always seeking to represent the people remote from the centres of power, rather than the interests of lobby groups.”
Asked why he cares so much about Brexit, he said it is “all about democracy. Can the British people have the government that they want?
“The problem with the European Union is we can be outvoted by a qualified majority vote and therefore laws can be passed that the British people have not only not consented to but have opposed.”
Was he upset that May laughed at the suggestion of him being in the cabinet? If he is he does not show it, rebuffing the question with good humour: “I’m a back-bench MP. I’m supporting Theresa May. My ambition is to be re-elected in North East Somerset. It would be unrealistic of me to have further ambitions.”
His recent interventions suggest otherwise. Rees-Mogg put the chancellor in his place over collective cabinet responsibility and slapped down a proposal from James Chapman, a former aide to David Davis and George Osborne, for a new “Democrats” anti-Brexit party.
With his experience in business and the City, is Rees-Mogg well placed to take on the role of chancellor in due course — like a Boris with financial brains? He sidestepped the question: “I don’t think it’s going to be offered.”
Certainly, some part of the Conservative grassroots is all agog with the thought of him standing as leader when the time is right. “Cometh the hour, cometh the Mogg” is a recurring line. But others — including the former Conservative MP Matthew Parris — are not so keen.
In his Times column yesterday Parris described Rees-Mogg’s views on moral, social, sexual and reproductive issues as “brute moral conservative” and warned that electing him as leader would kill off the “broad-church Conservative Party”.
Does Rees-Mogg even have the hunger for high political office? Recently celebrating the birth of his sixth child, naturally named Sixtus, he rejoices in his large family, lives in a mansion dating back to 1600 deep in the Somerset countryside and has amassed a fortune through his Somerset Capital Management business.
Having entered the Commons only in 2010, Rees-Mogg claims repeatedly that he has already attained his highest ambition of being MP for North East Somerset.
“The local party is part of who I am and what I am,” he insists. But surely he wants to ride the Moggmentum into a cabinet post?
“I’m very interested in political ideas, developing Conservative thinking, and I’m very keen that we should have a positive message for Conservatism,” he said.
“Our last manifesto was much too defensive and much too managerial. That was why we went from having such a strong lead in the polls to having a very marginal election victory . . . The campaign did not succeed. You can have a role in that without holding great office.”
Will he never throw his hat into the ring of a future leadership election?
“I think if I threw my hat in the ring, my hat would be thrown back at me pretty quickly,” he said.
Nor will he be drawn on who should be the next party leader. “There are so many people that would be capable of doing it,” he said, “and who it ends up being, as with Mrs May getting it, is a matter of luck as anything.”
Surely he wants a Brexiteer? “By the time Mrs May finally decides to become a countess and go to the House of Lords,” he reassures me, “we’ll have long since left the European Union.”
Rees-Mogg, 48, was born in Hammersmith, west London. His father was The Times editor William Rees-Mogg. The family has long ties with Somerset thanks to owning local coalmines.
Educated at Eton, he read history at Trinity College, Oxford but regrets not studying classics: “All the really clever people do that and a 2:1 in classics is worth a first in PPE.”
He did not follow his father into journalism: “My father was much better at it than I was ever going to be so I thought I could only ever fail by comparison.”
Instead he chose a career in the City, working in emerging markets for Lloyd George Management, which included a stint in Hong Kong before setting up his own investment business in 2007.
His leisure time is dominated by his large family: “It’s the most important thing. I’ve got six lovely, delightful children. I’m very lucky. I have a wonderful wife who looks after us all.”
They are working their way through the James Bond films: “We’re on Octopussy at the moment, had Live and Let Die a couple of nights ago.
“This might not be the most fashionable view — but then I’m not known for my fashion — but I think the late Sir Roger Moore is unquestionably the best James Bond.”
It seems an apt choice for Rees-Mogg. Not the action-packed aggression of Daniel Craig but the self-deprecating, humorous Bond — who ended up having the longest 007 career.
Tim Newark is a historian and the author of Protest Vote: How Mainstream Parties Lost the Plot (Gibson Square, £8.99)
Rees-Mogg is...
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...AGAINST
● Gay marriage
● Raising welfare benefits
● Smoking ban in private vehicles where a child is present
● Euthanasia
● A 2016 investigation into the Iraq War
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...BUT FOR
● Trident, bedroom tax and academies
● Stricter asylum systems and a stronger enforcement of immigration rules
● Mass retention of data from communications and surveillance
That's a HORRIBLE thing to say petra
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Well, he did say that 'any' Republican President is better than any Democrat one so I would assume he supports him. A comment that has stuck in my mind ever since I heard him actually say it on tv [so I KNOW it isn't someone trying to discredit him]. Which is one reason why I loathe him.
Maizied
"Jacob Rees-Mogg is emerging as the new face of Russian political interference in the UK..."
" Mogg doesn't just share RT appearances with Nigel Farage"---
No he doesn't . Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnell / Labour MP's also appear/ have appeared on Russia Today. In fact they were/are quite prominent especially on RT 's Sputnik/George Galloway. Actually MP's from ALL parties at one time or another are interviewed on Russia Today .
In your book are they too faces of Russian political interference in the UK or just Rees-Mogg ?
I watch Russia Today but have always accepted it is a Russian state media propaganda machine but it can have some good
points too.
Wonder if Mogg still supports Trump?!
One must question his judgement
Whitewave Tue 15-Aug-17 07:47:31
pogs smearing reputations is a hobby by GN posters, including yourself and me, surely you've noticed, as you make numerous posts doing just that given the chance as do I.
It is called political debate and rough and tumble-----
Your
shows that you find the fact a link was put forward that was years old, gave an impression of wrong doing by an individual was funny to you. !
So Whitewave you say ' smearing ' is a hobby of yours. It is not called debate and rough and tumble ' in my book.
I note that you have not made one valid comment re my post Mon 21.07 so I suspect my facts are correct or you would have challenged my post. Instead your attempt to oddly accuse me of 'smearing' only confirms that you don't understand , or more to the point want to understand, the fact a piece of unworthy , old tittle tattle proven to be misleading was 'again' put up for consumption on GN.
I found this yesterday. I have no idea about the political stance of the site or the affiliations of the author
www.byline.com/column/67/article/1777
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REES-MOGG: A FAMILIAR STORY
J.J. Patrick photo J.J. PatrickUnited Kingdom18 July 2017
Rees-Mogg: A Familiar Story
Jacob Rees-Mogg is emerging as the new face of Russian political interference in the UK...
It's 2016 and Jacob Rees-Mogg - the now increasingly prominent Conservative MP who has been linked to the so-called "Tory-UKIP Alliance" for some time - appears on RT, discussing Palestine.
"There are precious few politicians who stand out from the crowd as people of integrity who say what they mean and mean what they say. Whether you agree with them or not - you can respect them for that. This week our guest stands sentinel over these old traditions. The son of a peer and editor of The Times when that title meant something, and the Member of Parliament for North East Somerset: Jacob Rees-Mogg," the Kremlin-managed media channel fawns.
Fast-forward to the present and Rees-Mogg is bidding for the Tory leadership and, suddenly, he's on social media with an inexplicable following. The problem is, it all has a now familiar feel.
Mogg doesn't just share RT appearances with Nigel Farage, nor his social calendar, but his Social Media bot accounts and sock puppets too. These are the same Russian backed accounts which have switched from Brexit to Trump and back again, now reappearing with #Moggmentum in mind.
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I would think he would stand but couldn't see him being one of the last two.
Ignoring the second 'question', then. maryeliza? 
My post was in answer to your first question
Yes that's probably true
Wasn't that really because few wanted the poisoned chalice?
I think that JRM has sufficient sense of entitlement to be happy to accept it. Though I'm not sure that that indicates any political nous. He would surely split the party. After all, he probably wouldn't get far with the support of a few dewy eyed grannies and UKIP.
Isn't it the MPs that decide on the two candidates that are then put to the membership? It's hard to imagine under this system that JRM would end up as one of the final two. But then Andrea Leadsom ended up as one of the final two before withdrawing.
why would he even be considered as a leader of the tory party? Not only is he extremely right wing but he's never held office.
Is this an attempt to 'balance' the Labour party? Or a conspiracy to get a strong centrist party up and running? Or is it just the 'silly season'?
As an individual he may likable but his many of his views are loathsome.
Precisely, Cindersdad 
If he gets elected he will be the most right wing leader the Tories have ever had.
He is well spoken but far too right wing. Utterly civilised, but stuck in the past. Not a politician for our times. I profoundly disagree with many of his beliefs.
On Brexit I still think this is economic suicide.
Benefits should be controlled but fairly.
The bedroom is fine but only when appropriate alternative accommodation has been offered and mutually agreed; the current sledge hammer approach is cruel. It has forced some into homelessness.
As an individual he may likable but his many of his views are loathsome.
Oh stop it Annie that's ridiculous.
I'm so far left I'm already on my second circuit whitewave 
Takes so little riverwalk, how sad
Hey, keep me out of this - I haven't said a word!
we will met ourselves coming back soon
There you go sgain nightowl, best form of defence is attack for the far, far left here
There you go again Annie. No self awareness whatsoever. Such a shame.
Here comes the flock
posting blogs which are lies, posting old newspaper claims but omitting the full facts. Smearing reputations .
Discussions are pointless here
But Annie you have done your fair share of being personal and nasty and smearing posters' reputations. If it's wrong it's wrong whichever side of the debate you're on and I'm fed up of people making out they're innocent.
I agree with Anniebach there is serious debate, personal opinions and a bit of fun and then there's those who choose to be nasty and spiteful. I choose to no longer engage with the latter.
"smearing reputation is a hobby".
Really? 
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