Sarah Champion

Margaret Hodge has given interviews why is she to be questioned again.

Throughout history we know some men are sexually attracted to children , this isn't discussed ,

"^Sarah Champion saying it's an issue with Pakistani men is taking the pressure off the case of white men again^"
Balderdash! Niether Sarah Champion, nor anyone else to my knowledge, has ever said that ALL Asian men (and she never actually referred to Pakistani men anyway) are rapist's and sex offenders. Nor did she ever say that white men are never rapist's or sex offenders. This is just you again durham , looking for the tiniest, most nit picking anomalies in your efforts to detract from the main issue. If only you could leap to the defence and aid of the thousands of young women who's lives have been ruined by these men, with as much alacrity as you do the perpetrators.

September 2001 was the start of Stop the War, seems strange that anyone should approach someone over 20years later.
The real information about Geoffrey Dickens attempts to investigate the abuse and other info is here
lizdavies.net/academia/publications/comment-2/
Haven't read all of it but haven't yet found a mention of Corbyn. Margaret Hodge is being questioned about her actions.

Wasn't Stop The War started in 2001

Where and with whom did Corbyn raise it It the eighties ?

The reason I put that link on was because dbDB was suggesting that it would have been taken more seriously if it had happened in Islington rather than in the north, and people agreed with her.
Corbyn did raise the issue in the 80s, but it wasn't taken seriously then, any more than Rolf Harris and Savile.
Sarah Champion saying its an issue with Pakistani men is taking the pressure off the case of white men again.

Jeremy Corbyn was approached in the 1980's by a social worker in Islington, who raised the issue of sexual abuse of Islington children in residential care establishments. I've read several interviews in which she states he listened but took no action. She also says she approached him on a number of occasions at e.g. Stop the War demonstrations, to raise the issue again with no effective response.
The sexual abuse of children, whether by individuals or organised groups has been part of society for as long as we have records or knowledge.
Anyone who has worked in health, police, social work, probation, education or any other organisation coming into contact with children and young people will confirm it's far more common than most would like to accept.
That's the real issue isn't it. Why so many people, often men, are sexually attracted to infants and children. Why some men see children age 11 upwards as fair game because those children are neglected or acting out and preventing parents keeping them safe.

www.islingtongazette.co.uk/topic/Tag/kids%20homes%20scandal

Brilliantly put dbDB . I too have wondered whether the fact that the majority of the abuse took place in Northern, regional towns had any bearing on the apparent lack of interest from central government, the press, police and social workers. There has, without doubt, been more navel gazing about how to approach the sensitivities of the wider Asian male communities than there ever was for the victims. I don't recall seeing anyone blaming ALL Asian men for the crimes of some in their communities.

Spot on dbDB that was exactly the case.

Perhaps other newspapers were unwilling to accept her article? When Anne Cryer first found out about the abuse in Keighley she approached the Guardian with the story but they wouldn't touch it. So Andrew Norfolk wrote a piece for the Times & likewise they didn't want to publish - cultural sensitivities and all that - it was only a number of years later when a whistleblower from Rotherham approached Andrew Norfolk - and he realised that the problem was widespread - that he investigated & the Times finally published what was happening.
Petra mentioned Islington - and it made me wonder whether if all this abuse had happened in London there would have been more coverage and more empathy for the victims and their community. The plight of these children - hundreds, possibly thousands of them - has been forgotten in a petty little discussion about whether Sarah Champion forgot one word.

It is a paper I have refused to accept even when it was offered free in the newsagent's so I am quite surprised that she chose this to air her views - which imo needed to be aired.

Well, I think the Sun is a thoroughly disreputable newspaper which has consistently trivialised important matters, sensationalised trivial matters and regurgitated without question the lies of those in authority (as happened with Hillsborough).

If Sarah Champion wished to write a serious article regarding under-age grooming she would not have written it for the Sun whose performance regarding gender and race equality is pretty awful. Having offered her services to the Sun, she should have made absolutely sure that her words were not in any way changed in order that her views might be misrepresented.

I expect she did reach her audience and, in so doing, reinforced the view that all Asian men are paedophiles who hate women.

I agree with much of what you say Iam and I am glad to see that Corbyn say he will be working with her in the future "because she is totally committed to protecting vulnerable women in our society." Sarah Champion: Jeremy Corbyn reacts to resignation

Iam64 your posts are eminently sensible and not at all partisan.
I agree with all you have posted.

The anti-Labour lot are out in full force again I see.

I can see all kinds of differences. I like Naz Shah, she's not had an easy life, I admire her and I'm pleased she's in the Labour Party and an MP. Her re-tweeting was dreadful, whether she was an MP or not. She apologised, she resigned I'm happy to accept her apology because let's face it, we need women like Naz in politics. She was a younger, less experienced woman when she re-tweeted something I still find offensive.
I like Sarah Champion, I admire her and the stance she has taken in defending and supporting socially excluded, neglected and for years ignored young white girls who were the victims of horrific abuse. She omitted a key word. I'm amazed that comparisons between what Naz Shah did and what Sarah Champion omitted can be seriously suggested as one Good, one Bad.
Life isn't bliddy perfect, non of us are perfect. SC did brilliant work - can't that be accepted and admired without somehow her being blamed and criticised for having the temerity to try and reach outside the comfort zone by writing for the wicked Sun. Yes, I think it's a wicked paper but I can understand why SC hoped writing something may mean she reached an otherwise unreachable audience.

It was more than a retweet dj. Her Facebook posts were anti-Semitic. She wrote them herself.

Sorry, but could you explain why it's acceptable to retweet an offensive tweet, knowing the offense it will cause, but that's fine because they weren't the originators of it? Isn't is just as bad to propel that tweet onwards, as it was to originate it? Or is there some kind of immunity if "he thought of it, I just repeated it"?

Naz Shah wasn't an MP. She retweeted someone else's tweet; she did not write it herself.
I am amazed you cannot see the difference. On second thoughts....

Apologies and yes you're right, she inadvertently omitted one word. Luckily I'm able to correct myself, no harm done, but for this lady the guillotine fell, no apology or correction allowed for her! But for N.S there was! How curious is that?!!!

She didn't say one word out of place. She didn't say the word at all, implying it was all Pakistanis.
Sarah Champion resigned because SHE did not want to be the story. Obviously some of you didn't get that bit.

Why does it matter whether she was an MP or not?!! Sarah Champion inadvertently said one word out of place, this woman was suggesting that Israel was moved to America! even showing a venue!!!! A well thought out comment, and you're right, hardly the same, infinitely worse.

The post was actually made before she became MP. She resigned as PPS and was suspended, later re-instated. So hardly a 'slap on the wrist'.

Semitism -sorry!