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How to lose your staff in 4 easy lessons when you are the Brexit secretary

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whitewave Mon 18-Sept-17 14:14:01

So Davis has PST a permanent secretary, special advisor and two ministers in a matter of months.

There is huge tension between May and Johnson, May and Davis, and Fox has difficulty in justifying his existence.

All this power struggle and fiddling carrying on whilst Brexit burns and the country is left to run itself.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 20-Sept-17 12:13:49

Whitewave Oh dear, poor poor Dave and spouse
What was 'daft' about the referendum?
It was the wish of the majority of British people that we leave the EU.
To dither what might is' daft' Good job we Brits did not dither what might 1939..
Old enough to have been aware of my life pre common market and the state we are in now I would say those who pushed us into that which is now and has been for some time, and long before the referendum, a mess have every need to feel broken
Guilt more like it.

MaizieD Wed 20-Sept-17 12:11:58

And what 'shackles' would those be, quizqueen?

Do explain them to us because I am still at a loss to understand how an institution in which we have had a leading role for a number of decades and have initiated much of its current legislation has 'shackled' us.

quizqueen Wed 20-Sept-17 11:44:51

I can't wait for Brexit, it will be so great to free of the EU shackles and other countries will see our success and realise they could be better off too. Juncker et al are behaving like spoiled schoolboys who want to ruin everyone else's party because they weren't invited. They are NOT our friends and I certainly don't want them to rule us.

Alidoll Wed 20-Sept-17 11:29:28

Petra...unfortunately I think they believed they would and all the other rubbish that was spouted by the Brexiteers about how great the UK would be, how we'd all have money trees in our back gardens, that the streets of each city would be paved with gold etc...

petra Wed 20-Sept-17 10:40:33

durhamjen
I would like to think that the vast majority of people who voted to leave knew that Turkey never was, never is, going to join the eu.

W11girl Wed 20-Sept-17 10:28:04

More importantly could you tell us how the last Labour Government managed to leave the coffers empty on its departure!! We have had to pay a very high price for this, much higher than Davis losing his staff!!

maddyone Wed 20-Sept-17 10:25:33

Brexit bashing.....

maddyone Wed 20-Sept-17 10:24:19

I'm also fed up of the Brexit bashers, and that's from a Remainer!

maddyone Wed 20-Sept-17 10:23:01

Yes annie more Tory bashing, but I could cheerfully throw the lot of them out. I'm absolutely fed up with pretty much every politician and every party at at the moment.

radicalnan Wed 20-Sept-17 10:00:39

Stop borrowing troubles and believing that other governments are more harmonious than ours.

durhamjen Wed 20-Sept-17 08:42:07

www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-08-09/britain-s-not-so-sweet-options-for-eu-trade-deal-quicktake-q-a

This is brilliant. We could end up with the same deal as Turkey.
Remind me why some people voted for Brexit. It was because they feared Turkey being part of the EU, wasn't it?

durhamjen Tue 19-Sept-17 22:59:28

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/19/lloyds-of-london-dublin-brexit-xl-group-eu-single-market

How to lose the banks.

durhamjen Tue 19-Sept-17 21:23:23

www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/mitch-benn-winning-1-5196518

We are not remoaners any more. We are winning.
Brexiteers moan all the time.

durhamjen Tue 19-Sept-17 21:08:21

“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

Will we? Who said those words?

lemongrove Tue 19-Sept-17 21:03:36

I can believe it Petra but thankfully we will be well out of it.??

petra Tue 19-Sept-17 20:51:22

lemongrove
And we would have gone down with the sinking ship if the vote had gone the other way.
Interesting times ahead when Merkel wins her election.
Her and Macron are going to plough ahead with a 2 speed Europe. It will be " stuff you lot who put sod all into the pot"

lemongrove Tue 19-Sept-17 20:41:23

The man is a liability to the EU.

petra Tue 19-Sept-17 20:33:35

Juncker has seriously upset the Irish and French cattle farmers.
He wants to resurrect an old trade deal with Brazil and Argentina.
Never mind that the continent is at full capacity with beef farming and this will cause job loses, as long as he gets the deal in before we leave, it's stuff you lot beating the British is more important than jobs and livelihoods.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 20:44:20

Don't forget that Netflix means Netflix.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 20:14:11

Anyway, what has netflix got to do with CETA?

Read the link. It might actually raise a smile.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 20:11:35

Sorry but I disagree with both CETA and TTIP and have campaigned against both because of the effect on food imports and the NHS.
I do not wish to have GM foods imposed on me, or roundup, or any other Monsanto product.

We will most definitely be the losers.

whitewave Mon 18-Sept-17 20:10:01

I read that Cameron and spouse are utterly broken over Brexit.

Just a quick question

Whose idea was it to hold the daftest referendum with absolutely nothing thought through whatsoever?

petra Mon 18-Sept-17 20:07:01

durhamjen
Re your link at 19.35.
27 countries negotiate a trade deal with Canada ( well nearly) until the little known region of Wallonia ( population 3.6 mil) put their oar in.
Our country has been promised a better trade deal by the priminister of that country as soon as we are out of the eu.
I don't think it's in dispute that we are the winners in this one.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sept-17 19:35:20

www.indy100.com/article/brexit-theresa-may-analogy-netflix-subscription-7951136

petra Mon 18-Sept-17 19:29:42

Brexit trade deal with Canada will be even better than EUs Ceta agreement ( still not signed off) says Trudeau.

Will probably be completed in under 9yrs which is how long the eu has been working on it.