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How to lose your staff in 4 easy lessons when you are the Brexit secretary

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whitewave Mon 18-Sep-17 14:14:01

So Davis has PST a permanent secretary, special advisor and two ministers in a matter of months.

There is huge tension between May and Johnson, May and Davis, and Fox has difficulty in justifying his existence.

All this power struggle and fiddling carrying on whilst Brexit burns and the country is left to run itself.

whitewave Mon 18-Sep-17 14:14:37

Lost!

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 14:33:18

news.sky.com/story/government-faces-brexit-revolt-from-unhappy-car-makers-over-customs-11041724

We are going to lose the car industry as well. More important than a few advisers.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 14:36:43

And of course, there is Boris's problem.

Anniebach Mon 18-Sep-17 14:37:32

Tory bashing ?

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 15:03:21

Brexit rallies at both Labour and Tory conferences.

www.europeanmovement.co.uk/pro_european_groups_rally

whitewave Mon 18-Sep-17 15:04:32

So Fox, Johnson, Davis and May are in a Plantagenet type of power struggle, whilst a sceptical and cheesed off public look on.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 15:05:49

Wondering when they can get rid of them all.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 16:07:45

No rail union man will vote to keep Boris above the others.

labourlist.org/2017/09/manuel-cortes-as-a-rail-trade-union-leader-i-know-all-about-boris-lies-and-now-hes-at-it-with-the-countrys-future/

Cindersdad Mon 18-Sep-17 16:12:20

You might get the MOGG instead !!! Let's see what TM says in Florence.

lemongrove Mon 18-Sep-17 16:17:19

Brexit is hardly burning, a fair way to go yet in negotiating.
Something as complex as this is going to take time.
Don't believe all you read in the Papers.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 18:58:17

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/18/fighting-the-home-office-womans-traumatic-two-year-battle-to-stay-in-uk

Should I not believe this, then?

First they came for the Poles...
Then they came for the Japanese and threatened to split them up from their children....
Then they came for you....

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 18:59:28

Cindersdad, the Mogg supports Johnson, as does Gove, obviously wanting positions in his cabinet!

petra Mon 18-Sep-17 19:29:42

Brexit trade deal with Canada will be even better than EUs Ceta agreement ( still not signed off) says Trudeau.

Will probably be completed in under 9yrs which is how long the eu has been working on it.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 19:35:20

www.indy100.com/article/brexit-theresa-may-analogy-netflix-subscription-7951136

petra Mon 18-Sep-17 20:07:01

durhamjen
Re your link at 19.35.
27 countries negotiate a trade deal with Canada ( well nearly) until the little known region of Wallonia ( population 3.6 mil) put their oar in.
Our country has been promised a better trade deal by the priminister of that country as soon as we are out of the eu.
I don't think it's in dispute that we are the winners in this one.

whitewave Mon 18-Sep-17 20:10:01

I read that Cameron and spouse are utterly broken over Brexit.

Just a quick question

Whose idea was it to hold the daftest referendum with absolutely nothing thought through whatsoever?

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 20:11:35

Sorry but I disagree with both CETA and TTIP and have campaigned against both because of the effect on food imports and the NHS.
I do not wish to have GM foods imposed on me, or roundup, or any other Monsanto product.

We will most definitely be the losers.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 20:14:11

Anyway, what has netflix got to do with CETA?

Read the link. It might actually raise a smile.

durhamjen Mon 18-Sep-17 20:44:20

Don't forget that Netflix means Netflix.

petra Tue 19-Sep-17 20:33:35

Juncker has seriously upset the Irish and French cattle farmers.
He wants to resurrect an old trade deal with Brazil and Argentina.
Never mind that the continent is at full capacity with beef farming and this will cause job loses, as long as he gets the deal in before we leave, it's stuff you lot beating the British is more important than jobs and livelihoods.

lemongrove Tue 19-Sep-17 20:41:23

The man is a liability to the EU.

petra Tue 19-Sep-17 20:51:22

lemongrove
And we would have gone down with the sinking ship if the vote had gone the other way.
Interesting times ahead when Merkel wins her election.
Her and Macron are going to plough ahead with a 2 speed Europe. It will be " stuff you lot who put sod all into the pot"

lemongrove Tue 19-Sep-17 21:03:36

I can believe it Petra but thankfully we will be well out of it.👏🏻

durhamjen Tue 19-Sep-17 21:08:21

“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

Will we? Who said those words?