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Moggmentum is getting stronger

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Baggs Tue 03-Oct-17 05:46:08

I think the guy's coolness in the face of bad manners is part of the reason why.

durhamjen Sun 08-Oct-17 18:27:50

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/pro-life-tory-mp-jacob-11305073

Anniebach Sun 08-Oct-17 18:21:33

Oh dear, it must be true, voxpox says so

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 18:20:44

And I wonder how you can be such a wonderful Catholic and support every single benefit cut made since he became an MP? He has a stellar voting record based on let the poor be even poorer - that well known Christian principle.

whitewave Sun 08-Oct-17 18:20:42

mary so right

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 18:18:34

I really can't square JRM with the concept of shame but I can square him with self serving political ambition

whitewave Sun 08-Oct-17 18:16:56

Very difficult to be a such a strong supporter of the Catholic faith and at the same time benefit from such a drug.

durhamjen Sun 08-Oct-17 18:11:54

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/10/08/lets-admit-it-jacob-rees-mogg-has-been-shamed-into-dropping-shares-in-abortion-pills/

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 18:03:24

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-pills-abortion-rape-conservative-party-conference-tory-leadership-leader-a7976386.html

This is his defence of the investments before he definitely decided to run for office/ join the cabinet

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 17:57:18

annie was that a point of information or a joke? confused

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 17:56:05

ilove you are being too kind - when the story hit the headlines he very robustly defended he investment decision because it was best for the investors. I can imagine he didn't know before that but really you'd think a jolly clever chap like him might think to find out what his company's funds are invested in wouldn't you. Especially with his being such a moral, principalled decentbtype. I'm sure he's done it to further his political ambitions

Anniebach Sun 08-Oct-17 17:55:50

I very much doubt the Pope is in personal contact with
1.2 billion people

Anniebach Sun 08-Oct-17 17:52:48

I think you are right ilovecheese

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 17:52:20

Ah so there we have it - a leadership or at least a cabinet bid in the offing- or maybe the Pope had a word?

Ilovecheese Sun 08-Oct-17 17:51:19

I'm not a fan of his, but perhaps he didn't know that the company made abortion pills, just took the dividends, and when he found out he sold the shares.

Anniebach Sun 08-Oct-17 17:49:06

I doubt JRM could be pressured into anything.

maryeliza54 Sun 08-Oct-17 17:45:49

I hardly dare ask durham but have you a link to that? Seems a strange volte-face after what he said earlier in justification of keeping the invested funds. Wow wait a minute - you don't think he"s preparing for a <whispers> leadership bid

durhamjen Sun 08-Oct-17 17:29:54

Rees-Mogg's company has sold its shares in the abortion pill company.
Don't anyone say that pressure doesn't work. Now all we need do is pressurise him to take his companies out of tax havens.

Baggs Wed 04-Oct-17 17:49:13

Thanks for the info, FN. I'll read it asap. Cooking dinner at the mo.

Baggs Wed 04-Oct-17 17:47:41

I very seriously think that it would be really interesting if you were to start a thread about capitalism, Baggs so that we could all really think about it and explore the topic.

Good idea, maiz. I'll get a bit further into what I'm reading on the subject first.

durhamjen Wed 04-Oct-17 17:42:01

Here's an interesting discussion on capitalism.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/10/04/boris-johnson-can-have-flat-taxes-or-democracy-but-not-both-which-one-does-he-prefer/

maryeliza54 Wed 04-Oct-17 17:38:03

Homeless families may not rot in gutters but they rot in one room in bed and breakfast accommodation with shared washing/toilet facilities and very little access to cooking facilities.

FarNorth Wed 04-Oct-17 17:13:46

"Are kids and their parents left to rot in the gutter?"

Here is an interesting article from Match 2017. I don't know if changes have been made yet.

blog.shelter.org.uk/2017/03/change-afoot-for-homeless-families-on-universal-credit/

FarNorth Wed 04-Oct-17 17:07:01

I wonder how easy it will be to spot if a mistake has been made with one of the benefits, if you are entitled to more than one, and how easy it will be to get that corrected.

FarNorth Wed 04-Oct-17 17:04:34

Here is an explanation of the 6 benefits and universal credits, Baggs.
They apply to people both in work and out of work. Any of these benefits, that someone is entitled to, will be made into one payment of Universal Credit.

www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/universal-credit-an-introduction

What is Universal Credit?

Universal Credit is a single monthly payment for people in or out of work.

It replaces some of the benefits and tax credits that you might be getting now:

Housing benefit
Child Tax Credit
Income support
Working Tax Credit
Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
Income-related Employment and Support Allowance
You might be invited to claim Universal Credit if you live in England, Scotland or Wales.

Universal Credit is due to be introduced in Northern Ireland in September 2017.

durhamjen Wed 04-Oct-17 17:03:40

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/10/04/dont-just-make-ireland-collect-apples-tax-charge-them-a-penalty-for-failing-to-do-so/

This is going through the European Court of Justice.
No wonder people like Rees-Mogg want out of the EU and the ECJ. He is not a Victorian philanthropist, just Victorian.