Why are we leaving?

The point is that I don't think they are a vital piece of equipment. I think they are dangerous, and kill too many civilians.
I am not the only one who thinks that.
War these days is getting like 1984. We are being used at the moment as trump's airforce one strip, while the government is getting rid of our own ships.
Our airmen fly drones from the US.

What's your point durham? Haven't we already covered the point that drones can be used for negative forces? But also for good? Did I not already say that, like anything else, it depends entirely on who is using them? Or is it just that you felt the need to post a link?

dronewars.net/category/uk-drone-operations/

It's also worth remembering that, without drones, US and European peacekeeping forces wouldn't have had the sucess they have against ISIS. So, setting sweeping statements aside, drones are a fairly vital piece of military equipment and, like anything else, only as good, or bad, as the people who use them.

Drones are very nasty aircraft that bomb people.

That's a totally inaccurate statement to make, isn't it? "Compared to manned aircraft, UAVs were originally used for missions too "dull, dirty or dangerous"[2] for humans. While they originated mostly in military applications, their use is rapidly expanding to commercial, scientific, recreational, agricultural, and other applications,[3] such as policing, peacekeeping,[4] and surveillance, product deliveries, aerial photography, agriculture, smuggling,[5] and drone racing."

I can't repeat myself anymore to you. You have totally, deliberately misunderstood what my post was about. You are obviously not very intelligent, in fact you are stupid. So I can't be bothered any more.

Did you or did you not say the genocide of Europe?
If it's what you said, your son is part of it. Are you happy about that?

No! I have not forgotten! But if you choose to misunderstand what I wrote, then I can do nothing about it.

In which case I do not understand what you are on about, talking about the genocide of Europe.
Perhaps you don't either. Or have you forgotten that you said that?

Durhanjen! I really have no idea what you are ranting about. My son is married to a Maltese girl and I have Grandchildren of mixed nationality. I have friends in Iraq, who are Muslim. I don't know what you are trying to imply but you are very much "barking up the wrong tree" .

I ll try one last time: could someone explain, ( without using the words “sovereignty, indépendance, democracy, control etc...” ) how the EU has negatively affected their freedom, their happiness, their safety, their rights ....

It's no good ck33. People have been trying ever since June 2016 to get a clear answer on this one but there's never been one forthcoming.

Really, very few people gave a toss about the EU until Cameron used it as a bid to see off UKIP.

I voted REMAIN but I can understand why some voted LEAVE though I do not agree with them. The main reason appears to be immigration which we can control if we want to. A chance to hit back at the Tories, understandable frustration but nothing to do with the EU. There are faults in the EU but as part of it we can have influence and we are not alone in not wanting a more federal Europe.

Outside the EU our trade will suffer dreadfully.

We all know the referendum was based on lies many now exposed, the result was therefore undemocratic. The government should be prepared to admit that they may be wrong and have another vote based on facts and not dogmatism. If the result then is still LEAVE than LEAVE is what we should do. I would rather not a have another referendum but allow a whip free vote of conscience in parliament.

And when I say genocide to you, I hope you know what it means.
It means killing. Not very pleasant, is it?
It doesn't apply to intermarriage among different European nations. Both my sons are married to non-British wives.
Nobody died. I have five grandchildren, all of whom are mixed nationality. They look just as British as you or me.

Ha! Thought you were watching Educating Manchester, so I could say the same.
But when I say "drone" as attributed to you, I'm sure you know what I mean.

No, Bambam, not showing my ignorance. You can't call us drones unless you mean bees or planes. You can't talk to drones unless they are actual objects. A bit sad, talking to a bee or a plane, though.
I knew you wouldn't be able to stay away for long.

Genocide is actual killing of people.
Getting different races to interbreed is not genocide, and it takes a lot longer.
Anyway, as I said, Kalergi thought it was a way to get rid of prejudice, which is a good thing.

Not so long if Merkel keeps opening the doors of Europe to all and sundry.

I ll try one last time: could someone explain, ( without using the words “sovereignty, indépendance, democracy, control etc...” ) how the EU has negatively affected their freedom, their happiness, their safety, their rights ....

Yes, newnanny am inclined to agree with you there.

According to Coudenhove-Kalergi we are all going to look like ancient Egyptians, after prejudice has been eliminated.
That's going to take a long time at the rate we are going.

Personally I think 2 additional years of arguing is not going to get either side anywhere. I wish we were leaving March 2019 because only when that date looms will EU offer to negotiate with any heart. The alternatives are to offer vote or no vote but if people voted against the deal the alternative is to leave with no deal at all. Whilst we extend the final leaving date we must follow all EU rules so that means we cannot set up trade deals with any other nations outside of EU so just extends limbo. Personally I am fed up May has agreed to fill their black hole of cash for another 2 years when we could be spending it on NHS, social care for elderly and so many other sensible ways instead May offers to give away 20billion.

Oh dear! Durhamjen. Showing our ignorance now!
Drone: a male bee, or a remote controlled aircraft.
Or, as my description of you, A monotonous speech. 'only twenty minutes of the hour-long drone had passed'
For the fascination of Whitewave, quoted from The Oxford English Dictionary.

The puffed up bureaucrats in the EU only have themselves to blame for us leaving.

At five times the cost of champagne, it will be worth it.?

I wonder if Bambam realised that, Welshwife.
Won't the Austrians be killed in that genocide?

You'd have to, lemongrove. By the time we leave it will cost twice as much.