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Why are we leaving?

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yggdrasil Thu 05-Oct-17 08:49:38

This vid says a lot. Especially why the EU finds our government's attitude so incomprehensible

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgu6pFz5oxA

(it is about 8 mins long)

lemongrove Thu 05-Oct-17 21:20:43

Exactly newnanny that’s how ‘valued’ we were by the EU
Hierarchy.High time we left, and am looking forward to it and have already got the champagne in.???

Welshwife Thu 05-Oct-17 21:14:49

Going back a page or so --- can anyone tell me who the white elite would be? Written by an Austrian so is it Northern European people- ?

newnanny Thu 05-Oct-17 21:10:08

The reason we are leaving is because when Cameron tried to talk to them and explain how many felt about Merkyl inviting unlimited immigrants into EU, many of which were purely economic migrants, the EU refused to listen and take UK concerns into account. They offered Cameron a crap deal and so over 52% of the population said we would rather be out, following our own laws, making our own decisions on migration and controlling our own money than allow the unelected and unaccountable Junker
to control our destiny. We paid in far more than we ever got out of EU and they will not give us a fair trade deal because they are p*ss*d off the UK did not knuckle under and agree to let things carry on in same vein. Why limit ourselves to only trade with a small EU block when we can be free to trade with the entire world? The EU will miss UK more than UK misses EU. If they had been reasonable and listened to concerns of UK many would not have voted to leave. The bottom line is Junker is egotistic maniac who does not know meaning of flexible negotiations and so will force UK to leave with no deal but that is his aim/choice.

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 21:08:15

We just have to carry on repeating it, because you do not understand. It's like trying to teach children who do not want to know.
Watching Educating Greater Manchester now.

Drones are very nasty aircraft that bomb people. I am not one of those. Don't you know anything?

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 21:04:28

Omg! It's like talking to drones! I'm off! Byeeee!

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 21:03:25

Again! I accept your apology! Thankyou!

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 21:02:52

Genocide literally means the mass murder of a whole race or culture.
It's therefore not possible, as I said, to commit genocide on the whole of Europe.
They are not a homogeneous group. They do not have the same racial or cultural structure.

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:55:43

Blimey you are really protesting quite a lot at my fascination at how similar it was to your posts that is all. I m quite happy to accept you have never heard of it and merely suggested that you might be interested to read your words in a publication, that is all. If you have no interest in doing so fair enough. End of subject.

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:54:48

Apology accepted Whitewave!

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:51:03

As I said before! The publication that you read, White Revival must use quotes from other publications as I have repeatedly said. I have never heard of it!!!!!

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:49:54

Sorry?

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:48:09

Backtreading! Ha!

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:47:13

bam I think you will find if you re-read my posts that I have expressed no opinion, merely pointed out the strange coincidence.

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:45:52

Durhamjen, I've already explained that in a post above.

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:42:10

As I said before! Do you not agree with White Survival, or Black Survival of Brown Survival.
Also, when did I say that I was not quoting from a publication and why would quoting be wrong.
And I still have never heard of White Revival so perhaps they are using quotes from some other publications.

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 20:40:49

By the way, Bambam, what do you think genocide means?

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 20:40:23

So what do you suggest, Bambam, as May and cohort have no idea what to do.
They are upsetting every country in the EU and around the world.
Not only will we have no agreement with the EU, but no WTO agreement either.

Not gloating; I am actually quite scared.

In fact, if my family move to Denmark, I'll probably go with them. On the other hand, the speed with which the negotiations are going, I'll probably be dead by the time we leave the EU properly.

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 20:36:36

Pamela, I think the question was a desperate plea for us not to.
Have you watched the video?

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:36:10

Durhamjen and Whitewave seem to be thrilled at any difficulties we may have with leaving the Eu.
But we will succeed! Maybe then you will stop gloating!

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:35:11

I rather thought that us remoaners have been saying this since before the referendum. Oh I remember it was termed project fear I think.

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 20:32:40

UK and EU cannot decide between them what happens in trade deals. They have to consult and reach an agreement with WTO.
There are more members of WTO than EU.

Good luck with that, Fox.

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:31:45

bam I think you are getting a bit ahead of yourself.

I was struck by how your posts were the same almost word for word by the publication. I thought you might like to look for yourself, and as you have never heard of it be absolutely astounded at the similarity to your posts that is all.

durhamjen Thu 05-Oct-17 20:29:25

"The countries were particularly aggrieved that they had not been consulted and stressed that no calculation of Britain’s tariff-rate quotas could be agreed at the WTO “without our agreement.”

Indeed, the countries suggested Britain and the EU might need to rework the whole system of import tariffs and could not just shuffle quotas between each other, without disturbing “the delicate balance of concessions and entitlements that is fundamental to the global trade architecture today.” "

That's what happens when the UK decides it's going to be more important than the other parties to an agreement.
David Davis hopefully will take note in his EU negotiations.

whitewave Thu 05-Oct-17 20:28:20

I’ll try this post to pam again as first didn’t arrive.

It isn’t a question of not accepting the result.

Perhaps pam you can suggest a way around the WTO conundrum?

Bambam Thu 05-Oct-17 20:28:09

Are you being racist towards white people, do you think?