Why are we leaving?

Pity the homeless migrants in London don't go home for good I'd contribute to their ticket.

I see the Telegraph is reporting that Brussels has de died to step up talks with labour as they think the Tory Government might fall.

Also I would suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself when you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
You are embarrassing yourself now!

Not the same as what? ck33 who has lived here 43 years and yet is still a French citizen. It's just the same!
She visits England but she lives in Spain.
She has lot invested in Spain and is not worried at all about being asked to leave the country. It's not going to happen.
She's lived there before Spain joined the Eu and she was not asked to leave then.
Anyone would think that people didn't live in other countries before the Eu was formed but they did.
All this scaremongering is ludicrous!

In which case she hasn't really left the UK, so it's not the same.

Hi Maisie, bit of banter re: my friend in Spain. There was of course nothing intriguing about it. You knew the answers yourself.
Yes! She has a place here and Yes! She comes back, usually when too hot over there.

Definitely going to be good for net migration figures.
Bad for the NHS, banking and engineering companies.

I've read all the replies, dj, that's why I posted it.

Maizie, have you read all the replies to that tweet?
Not the usual, but all those people saying they are leaving, including older ones.
One woman said they had made a mistake by coming back from Spain to see the grandchildren, and now the grandchildren are leaving.

I know a couple who are thinking of moving to Madrid next summer. The company they work for has offices in Madrid and Barcelona. They are in their 40s.
I know another couple who are selling up in Devon and moving to Greece.
I know another couple who holiday in France a lot and are thinking of moving there.

It's not just the young.

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Hi Lemongrove, Like you, I am extremely cheerful and feel its a waste of time replying to some of the posts on here. There are some very gloomy and bitter people commenting on here.

That is their prerogative, to do as they please. If they feel that they want to move to another country, I hope they do well and it works out for them. That is what some young people do!
I have a friend who moved to Australia at 21, she's still there in Queensland after 40 years and considers herself Australian. For her, she made the right decision.
I have also friends who moved to Spain in their 40,s and another friend went to Gibraltar and is still there.
The World is getting smaller, people move around.

Why on earth should posters explain anything to you MaizieD simply because you demand it?
Leavers do not need cheering up, we are extremely cheerful just to be leaving, I think it’s the other lot who need your good cheer.

Perhaps this thread on twitter will cheer up some Leavers. It seems that young people who voted Remain are taking their 'advice' and leaving the UK...

twitter.com/Hanna_Jameson/status/916053586563432449

I'm not saying that your friend's vote was illegal, Bambam, I'm asking how she managed to get a vote if she'd been living abroad for more than 15 years.

Of course, instead of leaping in with the silly reply you might have said, perhaps, that she only lives in Spain for part of the year; or she that retains a permanent address in the UK , or something that would explain it.

We will have to abide by an unelected body’s rule if we wish to join the WTO - I think the Brexiters are dead keen to do that -sunny uplands and all that.

Having read through this thread I still find that Brexiters only reason for leaving the EU is to stop/control immigration. I haven't seen any other reason put forward except they don't want to be governed by an unelected body. At present we vote for our MEPs so the EU parliament is not an unelected body. The only unelected ruler we have is the sovereign!

Hi Maizie, Was delighted to tell my friend in Spain that her STAY Referendum vote was illegal.
I won't print her reply!
Friendly banter, I hope!
Oh dear! That means Remainers are another vote down!

It's nonsense to say that the EU is heading for a Federal State of Europe. 27 (or 28 if we never make it to Brexit) sovereign nations would never agree to it.

The EU is not an autonomous body, it is the sum of the nations which belong to it and decisions made about its future are made by all of them.

I suspect that the reason that Leavers can't tell us any positive benefits of Brexit is because the whole of the Leave campaign was based on negatives and wishful thinking. The most that Leavers can offer is 'hopes'.

Still, bless him, he did give us the referendum.?

Cameron did not have to call a referendum. He'd already come close lost Scotland from the union, a situation saved at the last moment by Gordon Brown coming out of retirement. He seems to be a bear of very little brain.
His little jaunt to Brussels to "renegotiate" was a token gesture. If he was going to negotiate something significant it would have taken a LOT longer. He could have introduced more control on EU immigration if he could have been bothered but he was more concerned about trying to silence the moaning eurosceptics in his own party.

It’s more what the future holds, the EU is heading for a Federal State Of Europe.
We in the UK, in spite of being a big money contributor, were fobbed off with nothing when Cameron was trying his best to get something to prevent a referendum.

ck33
I have to say that imho France is the most beautiful country overal in Europe, and I have visited all of them.
Favourite place: Lac du Bourget in the Jura mountains, heaven. I think if I were French I would never leave, you have it all.

Lemon grove, I agree totally about bureaucracy but I can t see how it has affected Your / Our live anymore than the uk bred
bureaucracy.
Nobody has yet answered the initial question for this forum or my subsequent one: how has the EU had a negative impact on your life ?
If the UK wanted to reform that it should have stayed. You don t reform an institution that caters for 27/28 states in a few months . It takes genuine collaboration and compromise...

Darnsarf, I was just copying Bambam.
Did you not report her post when she said the same to me?
Why not?