Support for the EU has now risen to its highest level in ten years

Page 6 of tht article is very interesting, Maizie, showing that 64% of the articles cited Tory MPs, but only 17% for Labour.

Here's the link:

Press Coverage of the EU Referendum

• Almost half those cited in articles were either UK politicians or campaign representatives.
• Analysts/experts, academics, and foreign politicians featured relatively little (respectively 11%, 2%, and 5%).

reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2017-06/UK%20Press%20Coverage%20of%20the%20EU%20Referendum_0.pdf

I think the situation always has been very complex, Anya, we were being told that by experts before the referendum. The problem is that very few experts were heard; analysis of press coverage before the ref shows that most of the reported 'information' about the EU was from politicians of either stance. At least one of whom, as we all surely remember, famously suggested that we didn't need experts.

(I don't have a link to the report on hand ATM, but I can post it later)

Varian there is no ‘should have voted’ about it though there could be a would have voted. To be honest there are pros and cons pretty evenly distributed across both sides.

No, I’ve not come down on either side yet because if anything the situation is even more complex than during the referendum.

A question for loopylou
Where is the evidence that 1in 4 first time buyers Polish?
Where is the evidence that EU citizens cost more than they contribute in taxes etc? I
Most EU citizens here work and pay taxes etc. And are net contributors to th economy.
My French / Polish/ (Chinese and many other nationalities) neighbours all work, in NHS, construction, Professional jobs etc.
They don’t “take all the jobs”- they often work in jobs which British people don’t wish to do , or where there is a need because of ageing population etc,
Would you refuse treatment in hospital if the doctor/ nurse non British ?

"MargaretX - I think people like Day6 must be very unhappy people."

Good grief - illogical or what? What an assumption! Care to explain how you made it?

What on earth has my personal happiness got to do with my feelings about the EU?

“Whether that will change, it won't change in a hurry and I don't think Parliament could bring itself to, they're all terrified of the right-wing newspapers'' this is part of what Ken Clarke said in Scotland when he said he feared that there was no stopping brexit. Terrifying to think the control these newspapers and their foreign billionaire owners have over us .

Exactly right, Hooty.

This one is for them then

en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/there's_none_so_blind_as_those_who_will_not_see

Yes, HootyMcOwlface, it's been on before, not sure if it was this thread or another.
Unfortunately those who need to watch it will not believe it, even though most of it was in the Tory manifestos.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kgu6pFz5oxA&feature=share

Hope link works - interesting video "Dear UK, why are you leaving the EU?"

Herr Juncker polite?!!!! Since when has arrogance and disdain been considered polite?!! In my book he's a most unpleasant man, think Italy, Greece not just the UK. No we're not great anymore, and haven't been for many many years, but my goodness we've certainly had our uses, which even odious Juncker acknowledged, in the not too distant past, and probably will again if we're still idiotic enough!

I think people like Day6 must be very unhappy people.
Britain is not great anymore nor has been for decades.
Of course we are always hearing about things being the best in the world but to me that shows an inferiority complex. Boasting is not in good taste anyway. Most European countres have things which are the best in the world but they don't brag about it

I find Herr Juenker a polite astute politician and M. Banier as well. Who can say that they are bullies? They are civil servants and are doing their job and as far I can judge by hearing them speak seem to be well brought up, polite people.
We can't all sink to DM level and start comparing politicians to school yard bullies, just because we are not in agreement about leaving the EU.

Anya it is intersesting that you gave the EU referendum a great deal of thought and did not vote because you could not decide.

Has anything that has happened or been revealed since last June helped you to know which way you should have voted?

Another bit of Tory economic failure that the MSM are ignoring. What's the betting they say it was Labour's fault.

Nicely “hidden” by our oh such good economy managers -the government

Yes I did. And I was shocked that it got so little publicity.

We don't have very much now, Maggiemaybe. Did you see that the ONS revised their estimate of our national wealth a short while ago. It turns out that we are £490 billion poorer than we thought we were.

And after we have paid the Brexit bill and covered all our costs, I doubt we’ll have much left in the kitty anyway.

I’m pretty certain that we are net contributors to the EU, ie our contribution outweighs any funding we get back. Boards are put up publicising where the funding for major projects has come from - it’s a standard condition of any grant. Two huge restoration projects have just been completed in this area funded by the Lotto Heritage Fund and several other UK bodies. If you visit Central Europe the boards all mention EU funding. Although of course some areas of the UK will have benefitted more than others.

I have no problem with this and voted Remain. And I have no faith that the UK government will distribute any funds fairly to the areas and projects that deserve support.

Another comment here from a left-winger about Brexit. I ended up not voting on this issue because, after both reading and listening to everything I could, I was totally undecided.

I could see both sides of the debate and simply could not favour one over the other.

It is very wrong to say all those who voted to leave the EU were tories. There is a very strong socialist case against the EU, and two of its chief proponents were Tony Benn and Bob Crow, both sadly gone. So please don’t let us fall into the same old accusations of racism, xenophobia, Little Englanders etc. The case against is far more complex than that, and we really don’t help the debate by simply accepting the propaganda the right wing and their media have engineered.
I voted remain by the way but I am and always have been very much a eurosceptic.

loopy I think perhaps if you have read that 1 in 4 first time buyers are Polish isn’t right. If you do the maths you can see that it isn’t. Where did you get this information?

No we are not all Tories. The handouts given by the EU were nothing to the jobs, houses and school places taken up by EU citizens. One in 4 1st time house buyers is Polish.
This is not an illogical emotional rant.
It's the way things are.
Perhaps we should have a means of voting on these threads so they are like debates.

In UK there has been little publicity about projects that have been fully or partially funded by the EU. The funds they gave to really poor areas have been enormous. In Wales where there are huge areas that young people find difficult to get transport to attend colleges the EU gave funds to have colleges in small places fitted with all the video equipment so that students could watch live lectures going on in the larger institutions and did not need to travel. This was not greatly publicised at the time but I knew about it as I was working at the Higher Funding Agency at the time and did some of the documentation.
In many EU countries boards are put up on projects telling about where the funding is coming from - that only happened fairly recently in the UK.
People in many areas woke up too late to realise the funding they had enjoyed would no longer be there - who will trust this Govt to pay it when all they are doing is making cuts.