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Anniebach Sun 22-Oct-17 08:49:58

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/20/labour-mp-clive-lewis-apologises-for-get-on-your-knees-comment

This as the Labour Party conference , a momentum fringe meeting.

Corbyn attended Momentum fringe invites but turned down Friends of Israel invite.

Very Donald Trump isn't it?

Fennel Sun 10-Dec-17 17:53:00

She's from Cramlington! That's where my first serious boyfriend lived, but it's changed a lot since those days.

Fennel Sun 10-Dec-17 17:57:57

Then another site says she's from Seaton Delaval - both very near my hometown, and much nicer than those bleak Durham villages.
I used to visit a friend in Consett, and worked briefly in Spennymoor and Trimdon Grange.

durhamjen Sun 10-Dec-17 17:57:59

Definitely. It was a village fifty years ago. There wasn't even a high school. They built their first middle school just before my eldest was old enough to go there; but then we moved to Norfolk.
No superstores or anything like that, just village shops. But underpasses to get to them, like windtunnels.

Iam64 Sun 10-Dec-17 17:58:15

Chewbacca, I've heard too many sneering comments about Lancashire/north west/Manc accents to count. My mother gave her children the advice to avoid developing a strong accent because 'everyone thinks people with a northern accent aren't as clever as they are'. Oh how we laughed at mum but I have to acknowledge, as the years have drifted by I've begun to understand what she meant.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 10-Dec-17 18:10:50

It wasn't a question of reading the news but of learning a bit about critical thinking and, in English, we were given a paragraph of news to write 'in the style of' particular newspapers and then critique what they were trying to achieve by using the style they do.

I am generally not a 'things were better when' person but you are obviously younger than me gillybob as I was at home with a small baby during the three day week and it does appear that my earlier education may have had some things your later one didn't aspire to.

I don't know what happened when you got past the Jackie stage but we certainly had newspapers in our common rooms - a small encouragement to read and expand our horizons. I know both my son and daughter's schools did to in the 1980s. It seems that you were not dealt a kind and useful hand sadly and fell between two time periods.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 10-Dec-17 18:11:46

did to did too

Chewbacca Sun 10-Dec-17 18:15:46

I'm staggered that you've experienced that Iam64. Although I'm Welsh by birth, my accent is very broad Mancunian. I've never experienced anything remotely like you have and I've worked all over the UK, including London and the South East. Sure, I've had people asking me to explain what some of my Mancunian colloquialisms mean and they've often imitated them, but always in jest, never spitefully. Maybe it's the people I attract.

Baggs Sun 10-Dec-17 18:43:30

I've heard sneering comments about northern short As all my life. I've ignored them. After all, ghastly is much ghastlier with a short A.

Someone in Oxford asked me whether short As came from Yorkshire or Lancashire. Both, I said, like me.

Baggs Sun 10-Dec-17 18:44:38

Oh... I've just noticed what thread this is! How we digress grin!

whitewave Sun 10-Dec-17 21:07:03

Huh! you northerners don’t know you are born. I’ve been told that my accent sound like butter!

lemongrove Sun 10-Dec-17 21:13:49

Butter? Did they explain? Better than saying margarine I suppose.

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 21:36:17

Salted or unsalted butter ?

Iam64 Sun 10-Dec-17 21:37:58

I’m sure you didn’t intend to suggest I attract the kind of people who make unpleasant comments about northerners chewbacca, whereas you attract a kinder group.
The reality is northern, Devonian or other regional accents can all attract sneering comments from some

Anniebach Sun 10-Dec-17 21:43:41

All accents do

Jalima1108 Sun 10-Dec-17 22:57:47

Careful you are criticising gillybob, who put the DM link on, not me.
I already thanked her for it smile

Jalima1108 Sun 10-Dec-17 22:58:47

Well, at least we get to read snippets from the DM on here - we don't need to buy a copy.
and I don't think that comes across as criticism

Jalima1108 Sun 10-Dec-17 23:01:07

I don't think my school ever mentioned a daily paper at all.

We used to have the Daily Herald when I was a child - what happened to that?

Jalima1108 Sun 10-Dec-17 23:05:51

And the Midlands Baggs - the short 'a' I mean.

There is no 'r' in bath folks!

I hope they pronounce butter properly whitewave

janeainsworth Mon 11-Dec-17 06:54:22

The only newspaper that was mentioned at my school was the Manchester Guardian, as it then was.
So there.

Iam64 Mon 11-Dec-17 07:45:14

Good school then, janeainsworth.

Primrose65 Mon 11-Dec-17 09:39:33

Investigation report in The Times today about political agitators exploiting the victims of Grenfell Tower.

It includes a short video showing Cathy Cross at RBKC council meetings. She's a campaigns officer for the PCS Union and promotes events for John McDonnell. She describes herself as 'a rabble-rouser'.

In an attempt to sideline what the article describes as 'hard left protesters' the survivors have formed their own group, not using the well publicised 'Justice4Grenfell' one. They describe it as 'using survivors as a piece of meat'.

Sid-Ali Atmani, who escaped from the 15th floor, said: “A lot of people are trying to make it political. It’s wrong. Please don’t use our name.

The article makes for very sad reading.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/grenfell-fire-exploited-by-militants-say-survivors-z60tdbqlw

Anniebach Mon 11-Dec-17 09:48:31

Thank you Primrose , no surprise, shame on them but liars know no shame

whitewave Mon 11-Dec-17 10:12:47

I was a French accountant who said my accent sounded like butter - I think he was talking about the pronounced R. He was rather charming though smile

whitewave Mon 11-Dec-17 10:13:11

It not I -

nigglynellie Mon 11-Dec-17 10:25:53

No 'r' in bath? There is is for the city!

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