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The Vile Trump

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Fennel Wed 25-Oct-17 17:01:52

I read his speech too, whitewave - also impressed with his integrity.
Has he resigned, or just not going for re-election?

SueDonim Wed 25-Oct-17 15:13:51

I think the concern about the more moderate senators retiring or resigning is that the Republican Party then becomes full of Trumpites (or Trumpists or Trumpeters, whatever you want to call them) and that is something to fear, I believe.

whitewave Wed 25-Oct-17 15:07:24

CNN has printed Jeff Flakes resignation speech in full.

What a speech! What integrity!

If only we had MPs with such integrity in this country.

Anniebach Wed 25-Oct-17 12:52:01

Does it take a polished career politician to extend condolences ?

Day6 Wed 25-Oct-17 12:13:07

Just thinking...language is strange.

If the bull-at-a-gate Trump did say "He knew what he was getting into..." perhaps in his way he what he really meant was "He bravely signed up to fight for his country and this can be a consequence. We honour him and grieve his loss." (Oh if only!)

I don't think he has the thinking or language skills of a diplomat - which makes his position as perhaps the most important man in the world all the more incredible.

I am not excusing him, but his lack of awareness and unpolished public speaking skills are something to behold.

Makes a change from the say-nothing, polished career politicians who glibly talk their way out of everything I suppose.

We want more than talk-the-talk from our politicians. We want do-ers.

Just musing and in no way excusing Trump his lack of sensitivity.

He is different...We have to give him that. confused

Luckygirl Wed 25-Oct-17 12:10:47

Vile indeed - but his support is slipping away as senators on his side leave. We can only hope that he will start to watch his power slipping away.

Day6 Wed 25-Oct-17 12:00:33

I tend to watch Trump interviews open-mouthed. I cannot believe the ignorance and stupidity of the man.

He totally lacks judgement, tact, diplomacy and feeling. I feel sorry for his aides who must dread his speaking off the cuff.

How can he promote America the Great yet almost shrug when a member of the armed services, who died for his country, is brought home in a coffin?

I do believe we have to be careful though. As Ailsa43 mentioned above. I think we are all aware that media and journalists today tend to give us THEIR version of the news. They colour it with their biases and prejudices unfortunately.

I would like to hear verbatim the conversation Trump had with that widow, in the interests of fairness. Did anyone hear him speak?

All we have is a report from a woman who may be putting her own spin on affairs.

Trump is still vile though.

vampirequeen Wed 25-Oct-17 11:38:57

Definitely not an attack by the media. The man is totally thoughtless. If it doesn't affect him directly then it doesn't matter. The widow also states that he couldn't even remember her husband's name at first.

Anniebach Wed 25-Oct-17 11:09:27

Not an attack by the media, the widow gave an interview, she was very distressed.

I agree, he is indifferent to anyone's feelings .

whitewave Wed 25-Oct-17 10:58:06

eazy I think you have hit on the truth if the matter.

Trump is a narcissist - this is exactly the sort of behaviour that one must expect. Nothing anyone does will make any difference,

eazybee Wed 25-Oct-17 10:52:54

I don't think it is intentional brutality, but complete indifference to anyone's feelings but his own, which is more frightening.

Ailsa43 Wed 25-Oct-17 10:51:59

Yes but did he actually say that or is it just another attack on him by the Media.... ? I'm not a particular fan of trump but I do think he's battered with a big stick unjustly at times...

lemongrove Wed 25-Oct-17 10:47:27

It’s yet another in a long line of ‘Trump-isms’ Annie and he needs to learn the art of diplomacy instead if saying the first thing that pops into his head.
His aides must be pulling their hair out, with all the damage limitation they have to do.

Anniebach Wed 25-Oct-17 10:42:50

This man has been brutal to a grief stricken young widow whose husband has died in the service of his country .

"He knew what he signed up for"

Does this apply to police officers, firefighters, as well as the armed forces ?

If we read of a person drowning trying to save a life shall we say - they knew what risks they were taking "

When we remember prisoners of war shall we say the same ?